Giro D'Italia (spoilers)
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639
Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997
Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times
in
31 Posts
Giro D'Italia (spoilers)
Cool to see Viviani take the sprint ahead of Hofland and Griepel, the latter went from 300m in a confused sprint finish.
I wish the race tech would include speed readings on the winner of a bunch sprint. Wouldn't it be cool to know that Viviani was hitting, say, 40 mph and compare that to Cavendish's finishing speeds in Turkey? And maybe even see max acceleration in the last 500 m?
Pozzovivo's race is off to a bad start, crashed and lost a minute. The other GC guys finished on the same time so the gaps from the TTT hold, I think. Gang Xu finished 103rd.
Porte is sleeping in a camping trailer during the race. Interesting.
I wish the race tech would include speed readings on the winner of a bunch sprint. Wouldn't it be cool to know that Viviani was hitting, say, 40 mph and compare that to Cavendish's finishing speeds in Turkey? And maybe even see max acceleration in the last 500 m?
Pozzovivo's race is off to a bad start, crashed and lost a minute. The other GC guys finished on the same time so the gaps from the TTT hold, I think. Gang Xu finished 103rd.
Porte is sleeping in a camping trailer during the race. Interesting.
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: location location
Posts: 3,035
Bikes: MBK Super Mirage 1991, CAAD10, Yuba Mundo Lux, and a Cannondale Criterium Single Speed
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 297 Times
in
207 Posts
No team wants to be throwing around data like that. And there are so many variables from one sprint finish to the next that a 50km/h finish one day can be completely different to a 65km/h the next.
I hadn't heard that about Porte, but it's a sensible call. To wake up in the same bed every morning might be preferable to having to find your hotel room every night of the race, having to work out where the dining room is, having to have your bags packed every morning before each stage, etc etc. Nearly makes you wonder why more teams don't do that.
I hadn't heard that about Porte, but it's a sensible call. To wake up in the same bed every morning might be preferable to having to find your hotel room every night of the race, having to work out where the dining room is, having to have your bags packed every morning before each stage, etc etc. Nearly makes you wonder why more teams don't do that.
#3
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639
Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997
Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times
in
31 Posts
Yes, the trailer thing makes sense, if they can find a not noisy place to park it each night.
On the speed, I was thinking radar guns?.
On the speed, I was thinking radar guns?.
#5
Senior Member
#9
Senior Member
#11
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639
Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997
Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times
in
31 Posts
Wow, the Giro is dropping GC hopefuls pretty quick here. Just Stage 4 and I count only 3, maybe 4, of the pre-race contenders still squarely in the hunt. And a couple of the big-name teams started crumbing once the climbs started coming.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Queens NYC
Posts: 3,175
Bikes: Colnago Super, Basso Gap, Pogliaghi, Fabio Barecci, Torelli Pista, Miyata 1400A
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 316 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
13 Posts
Hey guys, the word "spoiler" is in the thread title, so please, for those of us not watching, please give us spoilers!
![Smilie](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
__________________
It never gets easier, you just go faster. ~ Greg LeMond
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 14,744
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 525 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3230 Post(s)
Liked 3,869 Times
in
1,439 Posts
It was something seeing the peleton get whittled down like that on Cat 3 climbs. Actual racing -- who knew? It will be interesting to see how these guys hold up for the rest of the tour. Astana put in a lot of hard effort today.
__________________
My Bikes
My Bikes
#14
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639
Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997
Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times
in
31 Posts
Well, here is a spoiler. Carlos Bentancur, the new GC leader of Ag2R after Pozzivivo crashed, who arrived at the Giro thinner than he's been in a year, lost 13 minutes today.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 3,054
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times
in
7 Posts
gotta love breakaways that stick.. kid crushed it today... he'll be hurting tomorrow. forgot to zip up his jersey for the line though.. he'll remember next time
I've always thought they should shorten up the stages and get to the point.. they don't need 2hrs of tempo boredom in the middle. 150k tomorrow 2 good hills.. sweet. 260k friday. boooo
![Wink](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I've always thought they should shorten up the stages and get to the point.. they don't need 2hrs of tempo boredom in the middle. 150k tomorrow 2 good hills.. sweet. 260k friday. boooo
#16
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: location location
Posts: 3,035
Bikes: MBK Super Mirage 1991, CAAD10, Yuba Mundo Lux, and a Cannondale Criterium Single Speed
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 297 Times
in
207 Posts
gotta love breakaways that stick.. kid crushed it today... he'll be hurting tomorrow. forgot to zip up his jersey for the line though.. he'll remember next time
I've always thought they should shorten up the stages and get to the point.. they don't need 2hrs of tempo boredom in the middle. 150k tomorrow 2 good hills.. sweet. 260k friday. boooo
![Wink](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I've always thought they should shorten up the stages and get to the point.. they don't need 2hrs of tempo boredom in the middle. 150k tomorrow 2 good hills.. sweet. 260k friday. boooo
#17
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639
Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997
Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times
in
31 Posts
Some articles are asking why Tinkov helped chase down the break yesterday considering it contained Roman Krueziger and had a 10 min lead. The obvious answer, I think, is that Tinkov wants Contador and no one else to win, since he can't do the double otherwise. The other answer, I think, is that Tinkov know Kreuziger is likely to be banned in June and his results stripped, so a win by him is useless.
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: location location
Posts: 3,035
Bikes: MBK Super Mirage 1991, CAAD10, Yuba Mundo Lux, and a Cannondale Criterium Single Speed
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 297 Times
in
207 Posts
The fuse was lit today. It looks like we know who the top 3 are (Contador, Aru and Porte) we just don't know what order they'll finish in yet.
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: location location
Posts: 3,035
Bikes: MBK Super Mirage 1991, CAAD10, Yuba Mundo Lux, and a Cannondale Criterium Single Speed
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 297 Times
in
207 Posts
Some articles are asking why Tinkov helped chase down the break yesterday considering it contained Roman Krueziger and had a 10 min lead. The obvious answer, I think, is that Tinkov wants Contador and no one else to win, since he can't do the double otherwise. The other answer, I think, is that Tinkov know Kreuziger is likely to be banned in June and his results stripped, so a win by him is useless.
#20
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 14,744
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 525 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3230 Post(s)
Liked 3,869 Times
in
1,439 Posts
As to why it took them half the day to start applying that kind of strategy, who knows? Maybe it took them that long to get Contador to buy in.
What's really impressive is how Sky managed to do next to nothing too even though they were holding no such cards.
__________________
My Bikes
My Bikes
#21
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639
Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997
Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times
in
31 Posts
#22
Heretic
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Posts: 2,246
Bikes: Specialized Sirrus, Giant OCR3, Giant CRS3
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2827 Post(s)
Liked 561 Times
in
429 Posts
Spoiler Alert!
AC a faller in today's sprint finish. Injured his left shoulder and unable to pull on the pink jersey during podium ceremony.
Greipel wins stage.
AC a faller in today's sprint finish. Injured his left shoulder and unable to pull on the pink jersey during podium ceremony.
Greipel wins stage.
#23
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 3,054
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times
in
7 Posts
unlucky for him that tomorrow is the longest stage and finishes fairly uphill. Aru and Porte will probably test him out up there.
better off than the sprinter who crashed though.. owww
better off than the sprinter who crashed though.. owww
#24
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Posts: 2,668
Bikes: 2023 Canyon Aeoroad CF SL, 2015 Trek Emonda SLR, 2002 Litespeed Classic, 2005 Bianchi Pista, Some BikesDirect MTB I never ride.
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 647 Post(s)
Liked 136 Times
in
89 Posts
AC dislocated shoulder according to reports. Even if he continues, there is almost a zero percent chance he wins now. You don't suffer a hard crash like that and still be able to perform at a peak level. He would just be wasting his time and energy if he tried to continue hurt, he may as well go for the Tour - Vuelta double instead now. It would be sad to watch lil Ritchie all pumped up on that high octane Sky juice drop AC in the mountains...he may as well reset his training program and get ready for July...
On a side note, what the hell is up with all these main GC riders crashing in all the big races now? Before this era, it was almost unheard of for the big guns to crash out of races...from Hinault to LeMond to Armstrong to all the myriad winners of the past few decades...hardly any of them crashed out. Nowadays, it seems commonplace for at least one big name to crash out of a GT. So strange.
On a side note, what the hell is up with all these main GC riders crashing in all the big races now? Before this era, it was almost unheard of for the big guns to crash out of races...from Hinault to LeMond to Armstrong to all the myriad winners of the past few decades...hardly any of them crashed out. Nowadays, it seems commonplace for at least one big name to crash out of a GT. So strange.
#25
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: location location
Posts: 3,035
Bikes: MBK Super Mirage 1991, CAAD10, Yuba Mundo Lux, and a Cannondale Criterium Single Speed
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 297 Times
in
207 Posts
On a side note, what the hell is up with all these main GC riders crashing in all the big races now? Before this era, it was almost unheard of for the big guns to crash out of races...from Hinault to LeMond to Armstrong to all the myriad winners of the past few decades...hardly any of them crashed out. Nowadays, it seems commonplace for at least one big name to crash out of a GT. So strange.
I hope Contador's just being overly cautious and he can at least try to start tomorrow. The last 10km looks pretty tough, but at 4.4% not steep enough that anyone should be able to put time into him if he's anyway close to fit.
https://www.steephill.tv/2015/giro-d-.../finish-07.jpg
The likes of Matthews and Gilbert will be looking for the stage win, so I can't see Aru or Porte getting away with trying to take time out of anyone there.
Further update;
https://www.steephill.tv/2015/giro-d-...ador-colli.pdf
Cat scan and x-rays of Contador's shoulder.
Clinical examination revealed a slight instability of the left shoulder joint, as compared to the right one. The rider experiencedslight pain.
Rider no. 124 Daniele COLLI (NIP) underwent x-ray examinations that confirmed a compound fracture of the left humerus, while CATscans ruled out further fractures or damage to the internal organs of the chest and abdomen.
Another edit;
Looks like it was a dislocation. https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cont...-ditalia-crash
Talking briefly to the press, Contador said “In principle, there was a dislocation [of the shoulder] from when I fell. I got up, my shoulder was dislocated, and acting on instinct I popped it back in. I was scared because I thought I had broken my collarbone, which I have never broken in my life, then when we were at the foot of the podium it [the shoulder] came out again:”
“From that point onwards, it hurt a lot and we wanted to take maximum precautions.” That included Contador not putting on the leader’s jersey and skipping the press conferences after the stage to head straight for his team hotel and a detailed medical check-up.
“From that point onwards, it hurt a lot and we wanted to take maximum precautions.” That included Contador not putting on the leader’s jersey and skipping the press conferences after the stage to head straight for his team hotel and a detailed medical check-up.
Last edited by Leinster; 05-14-15 at 02:49 PM.