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HDTVKSS 07-31-06 03:37 AM

the boozer defence: is Flanders Female?
 
taken from cyclingnews.com :


Originally Posted by cyclingnews
"As soon as an athlete is controlled positive for testosterone, the same old stories come up," Ayotte continued. "The increase, even if natural, of the ratio testosterone/epitestosterone cannot, in any case, be explained by taking thyroid hormones or corticosteroids. Alcohol can in fact influence it, but only with women, and only for three or four hours."


fixedfiend 07-31-06 03:43 AM

maybe...
http://www.jasonbennion.com/photos/a...c/flanders.jpg

silver bullet 07-31-06 03:46 AM

And continued use of testosterone would explain the facial hair on that woman ;)

Hitchy 07-31-06 04:32 AM

....I dunno...but he started off saying he had 1 beer, then it became a couple of beers & now it's up to a couple of beers & a few shots of Jack Daniels......geez....I drink more than that...how come I don't ride like Floyd?.....oh yeah, the testosterone thing!. :D.......(note to all Nth Americans...I'm joking, alright)

Wilchemy 07-31-06 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by Hitchy
....I dunno...but he started off saying he had 1 beer, then it became a couple of beers & now it's up to a couple of beers & a few shots of Jack Daniels......geez....I drink more than that...how come I don't ride like Floyd?.....oh yeah, the testosterone thing!. :D.......(note to all Nth Americans...I'm joking, alright)

And perhaps you didn't build enough barns by hand when you were a little takka, Hitchy:p

HDTVKSS 07-31-06 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by Hitchy
.........geez....I drink more than that...how come I don't ride like Floyd?

talk about answering your own questions!

aussie troy 07-31-06 09:59 PM

The alcohol defence makes very little sense. On the previous stage he bonked badly we are told due to dehydration. Why would you then drink 2 beers and 4 shots when alcohol is known to also dehydrate. On top of that he comes out the next day and has the ride of his life. Doesn't really add up to me.

Conasdi 07-31-06 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by aussie troy
The alcohol defence makes very little sense. On the previous stage he bonked badly we are told due to dehydration. Why would you then drink 2 beers and 4 shots when alcohol is known to also dehydrate. On top of that he comes out the next day and has the ride of his life. Doesn't really add up to me.

Maby he gave the bonking a miss the night before the big ride! That would lift the testosterone a bit:rolleyes:

joeprim 08-01-06 06:37 AM

Weather the alchool makes perfict sense or not the ratio being high normally indicates high testosterone, but in this case it was caused by very low epitestosterone and some what low testosterone. What would he do to cause that? A combination of the alchool and that good looking wife that just came over? What would he take to make that condition that would help him? I think he was racing for that kiss he got from her when he finichesd that stage -;)

Joe
:beer:

sunninho 08-01-06 06:44 AM

So, he should add his wife to his excuses? haha.

I also get a hangover when I mix beer and liquor. If drinking hit him that hard, he would've had a hangover I suspect which would prompt him to take something that would dull all the pain (from the previous hard ride and the hangover).

DogBoy 08-01-06 07:02 AM

He did say he was going to hit the drinks that night when he came down to face the press though, so its believable that he did have some drinks. I don't know if it would affect the T/E ratio, or why the amount he claims to have had keeps creeping.

joeprim 08-01-06 07:17 AM

I sometimes have what some would say is a lot of beer and wine at the MS150 overnight parties, but I've also drank some much water and power drinks that it just adds to the sloash and has no effect like drunk or hangover. I suspect he had a lot of water that evening also.

Why not add wife to list of reasons? My first wise crack was as old as I am I'd do that ride for that kiss. (Fourtunely she wouldn't offer to call me on it).-;)

I still don't understand if his testosterone was low what are we saying he did.

Joe
:beer:


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