Face it folks, the riders of today are wimps...
03-24-07, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith99
Real men?
Years ago I went on tour with my college Rugby team. We played several matches and also watched a few. One was Swansea vrs. Welsh Police. The 8man for the Police split his head open. He retired from the field long enough for them to patch him up, which meant enough tape on his head to make at least that part of him look more like a mummy than a man. He then returned.
Those are real men.
Nothing like that in cycling!
NOT!
'Put me back on my bike' has that beat my a mile.
Years ago I went on tour with my college Rugby team. We played several matches and also watched a few. One was Swansea vrs. Welsh Police. The 8man for the Police split his head open. He retired from the field long enough for them to patch him up, which meant enough tape on his head to make at least that part of him look more like a mummy than a man. He then returned.
Those are real men.
Nothing like that in cycling!
NOT!
'Put me back on my bike' has that beat my a mile.
03-27-07, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet
The original riders of the tour are the finest ever and never got paid enough. They were truly the greatest riders who ever lived. No tour cars to change flats or bikes, no gears, just legs and balls. Red wine, cigarettes...ah those were the days when men were men. Now we have doping/carbon fiber sissies. Why can't the tour be like the good old days...?
Or perhaps you mean guys like Bernard Thévenet who won in 1977 after testing positive for drugs earlier in the year and then two months after winning the TDF admitted taking drugs?
Oh, maybe you mean Eddy Merckx, widely considered the greatest cyclist ever. Did he dope? Well, many contest it but he actually failed two drug tests during his reign.
Perhaps you're referring to Anquetil who admitted to intentially losing a race because he was paired with Poulidor and he said he got more enjoyment watching Pou Pou lose than to win himself. Yep, that's admirable.
Modern cycling did not invent cheating, immorality or bad people. They've been with us since the beginning.
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they might not be big he-man women hater types, but after watching several of them go down at race speeds and then het back on a bike as soon as possible, I wouldn't call them wimps.
I took a spill at 15-20 mph last summer and bonked my mellon -- I wasn't thinking right for two days.
I took a spill at 15-20 mph last summer and bonked my mellon -- I wasn't thinking right for two days.
03-28-07, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gabdy
Pffft, thats not a real man, in the 70's an Australian Rugby LEAGUE player played a grand final match with a broken jaw. He broke it in the first 30 minutes and played the last 50 minutes with it. Now that is tough, and stupid.
I broke my arm early in the second half of a soccer game and played to the final whistle.
We won 4-0.
I was the goalkeeper.
Bert Trautmann, Manchester City goalkeeper and former German Paratrooper in WW2, broke his neck in a game, FA Cup Final I believe, and finished the game.
Now thats tough!!
04-02-07, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rothar
PFFFT!!
I broke my arm early in the second half of a soccer game and played to the final whistle.
We won 4-0.
I was the goalkeeper.
Bert Trautmann, Manchester City goalkeeper and former German Paratrooper in WW2, broke his neck in a game, FA Cup Final I believe, and finished the game.
Now thats tough!!
I broke my arm early in the second half of a soccer game and played to the final whistle.
We won 4-0.
I was the goalkeeper.
Bert Trautmann, Manchester City goalkeeper and former German Paratrooper in WW2, broke his neck in a game, FA Cup Final I believe, and finished the game.
Now thats tough!!
I didnt think there was any contact in Soccer lol. Seriously though, soccer players are the toughest(studded shins hurt a lot) most well rounded athletes on the planet.
PS - You did not.
Last edited by gabdy; 04-03-07 at 06:34 AM.
04-02-07, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Hambone
they might not be big he-man women hater types, but after watching several of them go down at race speeds and then het back on a bike as soon as possible, I wouldn't call them wimps.
I took a spill at 15-20 mph last summer and bonked my mellon -- I wasn't thinking right for two days.
I took a spill at 15-20 mph last summer and bonked my mellon -- I wasn't thinking right for two days.
04-02-07, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Swampy1970
Ah... is that a fact? So that team they played in 1984 at the Communale Stadium (Turin) and then at Old Trafford (Manchester) was just a figment of everyones imagination then?
Yeah... I've been a Man United fan since 1976.
"The Firm" were Milwall.... The term 'firm' described a small group of hooligans though - but God forbid someon misunderstand you talking about your firm and "The Firm" as a damn good kicking would likely ensue. LOL Man United fans always went by the name The Red Army.
Yeah... I've been a Man United fan since 1976.
"The Firm" were Milwall.... The term 'firm' described a small group of hooligans though - but God forbid someon misunderstand you talking about your firm and "The Firm" as a damn good kicking would likely ensue. LOL Man United fans always went by the name The Red Army.
04-02-07, 09:28 PM
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I doubt it...racing has big money in it unlike back in the day when it was more unorganized.
If Discovery and Trek are paying millions for research and dev for the top bikes and for all this training and equipment. You better believe they want their team to win to get that brand recognition. They will have all the auxillary help they can in keeping their players on the road. Besides....McDonald's wants all the air time on the jerseys it can get.
If Discovery and Trek are paying millions for research and dev for the top bikes and for all this training and equipment. You better believe they want their team to win to get that brand recognition. They will have all the auxillary help they can in keeping their players on the road. Besides....McDonald's wants all the air time on the jerseys it can get.
04-10-07, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gabdy
Pffft, thats not a real man, in the 70's an Australian Rugby LEAGUE player played a grand final match with a broken jaw. He broke it in the first 30 minutes and played the last 50 minutes with it. Now that is tough, and stupid.
04-10-07, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
One of the very first tours, all the competitors were kicked out for cheating; fans sabatouged disfavored competitors; and various drugs thought to be performance enhancers have been used virtually from day 1.
Human nature hasn't changed. They just didn't have wire to wire coverage by helicopters and satelites, and pervasive drug testing to reveal the sorted underside back then.
Human nature hasn't changed. They just didn't have wire to wire coverage by helicopters and satelites, and pervasive drug testing to reveal the sorted underside back then.
Just FYI.
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet
The original riders of the tour are the finest ever and never got paid enough. They were truly the greatest riders who ever lived. No tour cars to change flats or bikes, no gears, just legs and balls. Red wine, cigarettes...ah those were the days when men were men. Now we have doping/carbon fiber sissies. Why can't the tour be like the good old days...?
05-05-07, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mezza
Bob Jones, an Australian Ninja hauled hauled rocks bigger than stonehenge just to have a game of marbles with God!......... Okay, I made that up.
But Druids had helpers with ropes... Ninja's go it alone and don't ever stop. Unless there's ice cream, they stop for ice cream... Apparently.
But Druids had helpers with ropes... Ninja's go it alone and don't ever stop. Unless there's ice cream, they stop for ice cream... Apparently.
