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Old 07-18-07, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by reef58
No the difference is Robbie is lazy.


Couldn't be more wrong.
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Originally Posted by ed073
Couldn't be more wrong.
Where are you from? Oh I see.

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attacking style? is that what that was?

Hey I didn't say it was pretty At least he got away from the group even though it didn't work out, he at least tried.
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I'm pretty sure McKewen would beat anyone in the field in a (rolling start) 100m time trial.
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Originally Posted by reef58
Yea he tried to attack Contador's rear wheel, but that did not work out too well.

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True, but did you notice he sat up on the descent to conserve energy and waited for Chicken's bunch, and they caught Contador and Popovich anyway, and believe it or not, he helped to pace them to the finish, maybe boring, maybe just a smart rider?
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I never said he wasn't smart. Why waste energy when you don't have to?

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Originally Posted by stevegor
True, but did you notice he sat up on the descent to conserve energy and waited for Chicken's bunch, and they caught Contador and Popovich anyway, and believe it or not, he helped to pace them to the finish, maybe boring, maybe just a smart rider?
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Originally Posted by stevegor
True, but did you notice he sat up on the descent to conserve energy and waited for Chicken's bunch, and they caught Contador and Popovich anyway, and believe it or not, he helped to pace them to the finish, maybe boring, maybe just a smart rider?
Yeah, but then he left a gap that wouldn't have been closed up if Kloden hadn't turned himself inside-out.
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Originally Posted by reef58
Where are you from? Oh I see.

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When you've trained and raced with him, you can comment.
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Old 07-19-07, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by USAZorro
Yeah, but then he left a gap that wouldn't have been closed up if Kloden hadn't turned himself inside-out.
Even so, after he had attacked and got dropped by Contador, he stayed away from Rasmussen's group until he sat up, if anyone should have closed that gap it was the rest of riders with him, not him alone. Even the best riders need a chance to gasp a breath and occassionally they make mistakes...hey, we're all human, remember??
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Originally Posted by stevegor
Even so, after he had attacked and got dropped by Contador, he stayed away from Rasmussen's group until he sat up, if anyone should have closed that gap it was the rest of riders with him, not him alone. Even the best riders need a chance to gasp a breath and occassionally they make mistakes...hey, we're all human, remember??
You must not have been watching. The five riders ahead of him just pulled away, and Cadel had totally zoned out for a few seconds. His group managed to get as much as 30 seconds behind before Kloden nailed it back. If that happens to him again, he might not be so fortunate, and could lose a minute or so.
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Originally Posted by reef58
I never said he wasn't smart. Why waste energy when you don't have to?

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so it's ok to race smart for everyone except McEwen?

-1 credibility.
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Originally Posted by bad timmy
so it's ok to race smart for everyone except McEwen?

-1 credibility.
Now you've got it. Robbie should be out in front setting the tempo and chasing down breaks. Then he should attack and go on his own 120K breakaway, sit up, wait for the peloton, lead himself out, and take the win. Just like Hushovd, Zabel, and Boonen do.

And now that McEwan is out, there's no one to pace Evans up the mountains.

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Originally Posted by reef58
No the difference is Robbie is lazy. He didn't have any problem keeping up with Boonen during last year's time trial. Once Boonen caught him he had a wheel to suck, and generally wanted to annoy Boonen.

Even though Boonen knew he was not going to win the time trial, and wouldn't stay in yellow he rode his butt off.

I can't deny Robbie can sprint like a mad man he just doesn't seem to have any class.

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He has no class because he, as a sprinter, didn't give it 100% on a meaningless (to him) TT? Interesting.

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This thread was not started to discuss Robbie's racing tatics. I merely pointed out I don't like him. I don't need to train or race with with him. I just don't like him plain and simple. I sure everyone here has riders they don't like.

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Now you've got it. Robbie should be out in front setting the tempo and chasing down breaks. Then he should attack and go on his own 120K breakaway, sit up, wait for the peloton, lead himself out, and take the win. Just like Hushovd, Zabel, and Boonen do.

And now that McEwen is out, there's no one to pace Evans up the mountains.
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Originally Posted by reef58
This thread was not started to discuss Robbie's racing tatics. I merely pointed out I don't like him. I don't need to train or race with with him. I just don't like him plain and simple. I sure everyone here has riders they don't like.

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Fair enough.

I think Evans has a great shot at it. Along with Kloden, Sastre, and Valverde.


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Originally Posted by DC Bruz
I'm really hoping so.

I feel asleep before the start of the Galibier last night but I just check the GC standings. I nearly **** myself with glee when I saw he'd moved up two positions in one stage. Considering he's pretty much Australia's only hope now I'm definitely behind him.

How did he manage to move up so much in one stage?

Don't you have VCRs or DVRs down under?
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Originally Posted by tn_roadie
Don't you have VCRs or DVRs down under?
No...we are still trying to work out Beta.
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My 4-year old son Evan shouts out "Cadel Evans!" every time the announcers mention his name during the broadcast.

I've been a big fan of Cadel since his mountain biking days when he seemed to break his collar bone every other month. At the very least I hope he finishes on the podium, and I think he has a good chance to win - especially if he can turn in some consistent rides in the Pyrenees.
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remember how that little ****** miguel mrtinez used to poan him every year? man did i hate that tool.
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Originally Posted by erader
you know the same was said about mario cippolini in the earlier part of his career...before his record number of wins ... but now we know the lionking probably won his sprints and abandoned to stay a step ahead of the doping checks

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Eh, I always thought they skipped out to save their legs for the later season races. After the first week, the odds of a breakaway stiking are much higher, plus the mountains, and its a lot more work for less reward.

stage winners get tested too, so skipping out wouldn't necessarily save his hide.
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After seeing stage 11, live on TV, all I can say is......... "GO VINO", what a champ!! ya gotta love the guy for trying.
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Originally Posted by SaintAndrew
remember how that little ****** miguel mrtinez used to poan him every year? man did i hate that tool.
I expected Little Mig to win at least one mountain stage one of the Grand Tours since he used to regularly blow the off-road field away, but I guess not much happened in his road career. Cadel Evans, Michael Rasmussen and Floyd Landis have done much better with their transitions. On the other hand, Martinez has a gold medal from the 2000 Olympics and that ain't too shabby.
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Originally Posted by 7rider
Cadel Evans, Michael Rasmussen and Floyd Landis have done much better with their transitions. .

+ Dario Cioni
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This is a great point - I'm beginning to dislike Evans, possibly the most boring racer to watch in contention for any jersey, mostly because of his smart tactics ('limpet' according to Phil or Paul just now).

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This thread was not started to discuss Robbie's racing tatics. I merely pointed out I don't like him. I don't need to train or race with with him. I just don't like him plain and simple. I sure everyone here has riders they don't like.

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So in order for you to like a rider, he has to ride like an idiot? Ok. This stuff about Evans being 'boring' or 'weak' because he's riding himself into the ground every day to stay near the front, but not blowing himself up in a meaningless attack that he know he can't make stick because he's already redlining... he's being paid to get results not to overreach like a poseur idiot, blowing his GC chances.
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