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Old 07-25-07, 03:27 PM
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Messed up?

Sure - but necessary. Unfortunately, these riders are all monkeys apparantly, and rather than look at the testing requirements and regimin, and the repercussions, they thought that they could get away with. Seems to me, there needs to be some sacrificial lambs to make these idiots fall in line.

I do not think you cancel the tour. As Boonen said, Cadel Evans is clean. So I am going to root for this guy now.
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I have a feeling that Rasmussen rode so well today because he knew, or suspected that his time was limited. I think Vino rode hard on his last stage for the same reason.

Doesn't matter I guess. I thought last year was bad. This is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
I' about ready to forget about all this and go have some beers, or go ride. Just can't decide which one.
Do both
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Why are you people giving up? We need to as cycling fans reinforce this good behavoir by the Tour, ASO and UCI. We need to let them know we applaud what they are doing.
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Does all this mean that the testing is getting better? The controls are working in a certain way?
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
I' about ready to forget about all this and go have some beers, or go ride. Just can't decide which one.
if you rode a fixed gear you could just put a pbr in your cage.... two birds one stone

or ride to go get beers
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Now on velonews https://www.velonews.com/tour2007/det...s/12944.0.html.
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I wonder if his docs figured out that they messed up and that he's going to have a positive test and just quit before the **** hits the fan.
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Ah hell, I'm just about to go do my first crit in many years -- and I didn't do that many of them back then.

And I do hope there is more than the missed dope test; while those piss me off, the riders do have rights that should be enforced. If they want two failures to inform to = failed test, write the damn rules that way. Otherwise, why have standards?
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Ima go ride this **** off.
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Contador has won. Yay!(?)

I am thrilled. I never liked the Dane anyway.

Is anyone surprised?
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**** that, I'm still watching. Doped or not I want to see an effing race.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
**** that, I'm still watching. Doped or not I want to see an effing race.
Thank you.
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so he was in italy and not mexico.... um why now?
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I hope that Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen won't jump from one of the mountains.
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Originally Posted by yellowjeep
if you rode a fixed gear you could just put a pbr in your cage.... two birds one stone

or ride to go get beers
Good idea! I've got a fixed gear, but it doesn't have a bottle cage.
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No punches being held by the organizers that's for sure. Rasmussen winning would have left a bad lingering cloud because of the 4 missed controls. I half suspected he would be forced out because of this and maybe this is exactly what happened.

I think this is good long term though in the sense that any question of possible doping will effectively end a rider's career. Sad but good cuz a weeding/culling process is part of getting to a better state.
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Originally Posted by yellowjeep
so he was in italy and not mexico.... um why now?


The lengths these guys go to never cease to amaze me.
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They wouldn' have todays doping test results done. I'd guess its some allegation in his past, which IMO would be a disapointing reason to pressure him out. It would be even sadder if it was just general media pressure.
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Originally Posted by tubs
No punches being held by the organizers that's for sure. Rasmussen winning would have left a bad lingering cloud because of the 4 missed controls. I half suspected he would be forced out because of this and maybe this is exactly what happened.

I think this is good long term though in the sense that any question of possible doping will effectively end a rider's career. Sad but good cuz a weeding/culling process is part of getting to a better state.
I agree completely. The sport could ill afford 2 years in a row of a disgraced/questionable "winner."
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I also wonder if Rabobank was forced to look at the fact that Confidis and Astana were both kicked out as teams, and figured that for their sponsor's sake, they could not risk the entire team being kicked out.

Also - we have no idea if Rabobank the company put pressure on team management to get rid of him due to the negative press.

So - what are the odds Rabobank decides to exit Cycling now as well.

Let the blood flow at this point. Lets get rid of all of these cats.
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From Velonews 'It is not even sure if the team will carry on in the race' about Rabobank.
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Originally Posted by godspiral
They wouldn' have todays doping test results done. I'd guess its some allegation in his past, which IMO would be a disapointing reason to pressure him out. It would be even sadder if it was just general media pressure.
The link says he lied about his whereabouts. He was actually in Italy instead of Mexico. I guess that's why he missed a couple of those tests.
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Originally Posted by godspiral
I'd guess its some allegation in his past, which IMO would be a disapointing reason to pressure him out. It would be even sadder if it was just general media pressure.
just in:

However the team has learnt that Rasmussen lied to them over where and what he was up to during the month of June when he was in fact in Italy and not in Mexico as he had told them.

"He broke team rules," said a team spokesman, who said that the Dane has also been fired from the team
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