Old Age and Treachery: Go Lance!
07-08-09, 01:26 PM
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I'm betting you're right. I would have liked to have seen him get another Yellow jersey yesterday. Don't thinkits likely to happen again.
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well, if Asstana plays their cards right, they can have the top 5 spots filled.
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I think the time gaps are big enough and the slopes gentle enough that LA could possibly get the yellow for at least one stage. He is not likely to be that tired yet. The back-to-back mountain stages and attacks from other teams will take their toll so this is his only chance to wear yellow again.
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I think the time gaps are big enough and the slopes gentle enough that LA could possibly get the yellow for at least one stage. He is not likely to be that tired yet. The back-to-back mountain stages and attacks from other teams will take their toll so this is his only chance to wear yellow again.
07-08-09, 02:33 PM
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You have to look at the stage 1 time trial. The TT has been LA's own domain for majority of his tour wins. On Saturday Contador put 22s into him in a just 10mi. that's a big chunk is such a short TT. The TT is NOT Contadors strong point, granted he's improved but it's not his specialty...climbing is and he's one of the worlds best. I just can't see Lance beating this guy on any mountain top finish. I know all you guys want Lance to ride away with this but gaining few seconds on flat road stage because he was attentive or tipped off or AC was asleep at the wheel is not going to counter AC's ability to go up hill.
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I agree with you. But at last check Lance doesn't have to beat anyone but Cancellara to get yellow. The next non-Astana rider that could present a problem is CVV at 1:16. So, while I still believe that LA will fall out of the top 10 by Tour's end he does have a good chance of wearing yellow one more time.
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I agree with you. But at last check Lance doesn't have to beat anyone but Cancellara to get yellow. The next non-Astana rider that could present a problem is CVV at 1:16. So, while I still believe that LA will fall out of the top 10 by Tour's end he does have a good chance of wearing yellow one more time.
I think the only way that doesn't happen is if a select group including Armstrong, Contador, and other favorites such as Evans et al, climb most of Friday's finish together with no one making a decisive move.
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He has to beat Cancellera Friday, pretty much a given. But he also has to not conceed more than 19 seconds to Contador. Friday's finishing HC climb is 7% grade for 10km, which admittedly is not that tough for an HC climb, but it still be enough for Contador to put at least 30 seconds into Armstrong.
I think the only way that doesn't happen is if a select group including Armstrong, Contador, and other favorites such as Evans et al, climb most of Friday's finish together with no one making a decisive move.
I think the only way that doesn't happen is if a select group including Armstrong, Contador, and other favorites such as Evans et al, climb most of Friday's finish together with no one making a decisive move.
07-08-09, 03:01 PM
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When do you think this is going to happen? Tomorrow is a flat stage and not likely to have any impact on the GC, unless Fab has an Alberto moment. Friday is a day for the climbers and AC is only 19s out of yellow, Saturday is again a day for the climbers. By days end on Sat Lance should be behind AC by a decent chunk.
He has to beat Cancellera Friday, pretty much a given. But he also has to not conceed more than 19 seconds to Contador. Friday's finishing HC climb is 7% grade for 10km, which admittedly is not that tough for an HC climb, but it still be enough for Contador to put at least 30 seconds into Armstrong.
I think the only way that doesn't happen is if a select group including Armstrong, Contador, and other favorites such as Evans et al, climb most of Friday's finish together with no one making a decisive move.
I think the only way that doesn't happen is if a select group including Armstrong, Contador, and other favorites such as Evans et al, climb most of Friday's finish together with no one making a decisive move.
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I see this happening Friday. Astana is bunched up in the GC. They don't need to attack anyone unless other contenders make a move. You are getting caught up in the LA vs AC hype if you think Astana riders have any reason to attack each other. What would be the purpose of doing that in the 7th stage of a 21 stage PROFESSIONAL stage race? The TDF no less!
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People read too much into the standings after a TTT. Winning teams often end up with several highly placed riders.
Leipheimer and Zubeldia will go backwards when the big climbs begin. If Astana really played it right and with some luck they could end up in Paris with three in the top five.
Leipheimer and Zubeldia will go backwards when the big climbs begin. If Astana really played it right and with some luck they could end up in Paris with three in the top five.
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it wont take luck for Contador, Klodi, and Lance to be top 5.
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You have to look at the stage 1 time trial. The TT has been LA's own domain for majority of his tour wins. On Saturday Contador put 22s into him in a just 10mi. that's a big chunk is such a short TT. The TT is NOT Contadors strong point, granted he's improved but it's not his specialty...climbing is and he's one of the worlds best. I just can't see Lance beating this guy on any mountain top finish. I know all you guys want Lance to ride away with this but gaining few seconds on flat road stage because he was attentive or tipped off or AC was asleep at the wheel is not going to counter AC's ability to go up hill.