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07-22-09, 12:31 PM
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07-22-09, 12:37 PM
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Astana will continue as a team led by Vino, and, probably not get an invite to Le Tour. Armstrong and JB have contracts to a team that is sponsored by and named Astana. Both have indicated that they probably won't be associated with Astana next year. Lance's announcement was with regards to "a new partner for our team in 2010".
Also, as someone mentioned in this thread, Phinney is not ready for the Tour, or other Grand Tours yet so he maybe on the new team doing classics races, but will not race the Tour.
This is going out on a limb, maybe I'm crazy, but my prediction is Lance doesn't race the Tour next year because this year was too taxing, he owns/runs the Nike-LiveStrong-Trek team (like Stapleton at High Road), the new team is managed by Johan, and they sign....ummm...Cadel Evans as a GC man. Yes, you heard it hear first. In any event, this new team will be top-notch, BUT, do you all really think they will invite three U.S. based teams to the Tour? Believe me they should, but how can they have more U.S. teams than Italian, Spanish...not sure.
07-22-09, 12:47 PM
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I disagree, not entirely, but there are others. Remember Schleck rides on Saxo Bank, which has perhaps the best team manager in Bjarne Riis. Put Cadel Evans (32), and younger guys like Nibali, Kriezinger, Lovkquist on that team and they are in the running. I'm betting you are right, they (Livestrong) goes after some big names, but there are a lot of big names out there to go after.
07-22-09, 02:06 PM
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My .02 cents:
Lance and JB will lead a new American team and Lance will ride the 2010 TdF.....the new sponsor will demand it. Contador will be on some Spanish team. Levi, and Popo will be on team lance.
Lance and JB will lead a new American team and Lance will ride the 2010 TdF.....the new sponsor will demand it. Contador will be on some Spanish team. Levi, and Popo will be on team lance.
07-22-09, 02:17 PM
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Yep ..... Check this thread out . . word is Oracle is going to be the Armstrong Team sponsor. It sounds like a Hindenberg in waiting.
https://forum.velonews.com/read.php?f...1#reply_375901
BTW . . . I believe Bruyneel owns the contract with Contador, NOT Astana.
https://forum.velonews.com/read.php?f...1#reply_375901
BTW . . . I believe Bruyneel owns the contract with Contador, NOT Astana.
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07-22-09, 02:35 PM
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Info I have is that it will be a new team with JB coaching and Lance riding. Contador is under contract to Astana through 2010. Only way he'll be free is if Astana folds. Major sponsor will be a US company. Announcement will be Thursday.
More than that I'm not privvy to say. Oh, I work for a major news company
More than that I'm not privvy to say. Oh, I work for a major news company
My understanding is that ALL of the riders on the team sponsored by and known as Astana are under contract to the management company owned by JB. All of the assets, team buses equipment contracts etc are also owned by that company. Astana (and other lessor sponsors) provide the operating cash to basically pay all the operating expenses of the team and Astana also holds the Pro Tour license. Now I don't know what kind of escape clauses may be in various rider contracts if the main sponsor changes etc. I've wondered how Contador will get out of his contract given the rampant speculation about him moving on.
07-22-09, 02:46 PM
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Yeah, I saw that. But you don't think Oracle made up their mind this week do you? I'm guessing they have a little more foresight than that. Eh, who knows. Guess we'll all find out tomorrow.
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Yep ..... Check this thread out . . word is Oracle is going to be the Armstrong Team sponsor. It sounds like a Hindenberg in waiting.
https://forum.velonews.com/read.php?f...1#reply_375901
BTW . . . I believe Bruyneel owns the contract with Contador, NOT Astana.
https://forum.velonews.com/read.php?f...1#reply_375901
BTW . . . I believe Bruyneel owns the contract with Contador, NOT Astana.
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My understanding is that ALL of the riders on the team sponsored by and known as Astana are under contract to the management company owned by JB. All of the assets, team buses equipment contracts etc are also owned by that company. Astana (and other lessor sponsors) provide the operating cash to basically pay all the operating expenses of the team and Astana also holds the Pro Tour license. Now I don't know what kind of escape clauses may be in various rider contracts if the main sponsor changes etc. I've wondered how Contador will get out of his contract given the rampant speculation about him moving on.
07-23-09, 05:24 AM
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Classics are a one day crap shot. Nobody dominates the classics, and it was never their priority. If they could have kept Boonen..... who knows what may have been. Bruyneel has managed 10 Grand Tour winning teams, he's doing something right. Grand Tours are where the money and prestige come from, like it or not. You could win all the classics but it won't offer what a GT win gets you.
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Classics are a one day crap shot. Nobody dominates the classics, and it was never their priority. If they could have kept Boonen..... who knows what may have been. Bruyneel has managed 10 Grand Tour winning teams, he's doing something right. Grand Tours are where the money and prestige come from, like it or not. You could win all the classics but it won't offer what a GT win gets you.
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