Lance Armstrong has no class
07-29-09, 06:16 AM
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I'd like to know why there hasn't been any criticism of Armstrong's childish, unsportsmanlike behaviour with Contador...
1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going on.
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
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1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going on.
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
Peace.
What team party for Contador? The one that several news outlets assume happened based on this interview by Versus?
Direct Quote from interview.
FA: Alberto has the yellow jersey. As a team last night did you guys celebrate having the yellow jersey or is there still a little bit of a separation coming into this final day?
LA: Umh. Well to be honest I went to dinner with the Radio Shack guys.
FA: Well did you celebrate third place.
LA: I had a few more glasses of wine than I normally have every night, so.
As you can see there is a question asked about if the team had a party last night. Lance answers that he had dinner with the Radio Shack guys. He did not say that there was a party for the team that he did not go to. What information do you have that there was an actual party for the team that night?
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Velonews and Cyclingnews.com had reported that. The dinner that the OP was referring to was the celebratory dinner on the eve of the final stage of the Tour. It's a custom that dates back to the early beginnings of the Tour. Armstrong purposely missed this for his own selfish reasons.
07-29-09, 06:52 AM
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So you think Lance rules cycling and everyone in it and everyone is on the payroll of Livestrong? Man you need to GROW UP and get a life Haters never get anywhere in life. Just get your I HATE LANCE tee shirt and go back to high school with all the Drama...Lance has done more for the sport of CYCLING than CONTA-DORK ever will!!!!!!!!!
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What team party for Contador? The one that several news outlets assume happened based on this interview by Versus?
Direct Quote from interview.
FA: Alberto has the yellow jersey. As a team last night did you guys celebrate having the yellow jersey or is there still a little bit of a separation coming into this final day?
LA: Umh. Well to be honest I went to dinner with the Radio Shack guys.
FA: Well did you celebrate third place.
LA: I had a few more glasses of wine than I normally have every night, so.
As you can see there is a question asked about if the team had a party last night. Lance answers that he had dinner with the Radio Shack guys. He did not say that there was a party for the team that he did not go to. What information do you have that there was an actual party for the team that night?
Direct Quote from interview.
FA: Alberto has the yellow jersey. As a team last night did you guys celebrate having the yellow jersey or is there still a little bit of a separation coming into this final day?
LA: Umh. Well to be honest I went to dinner with the Radio Shack guys.
FA: Well did you celebrate third place.
LA: I had a few more glasses of wine than I normally have every night, so.
As you can see there is a question asked about if the team had a party last night. Lance answers that he had dinner with the Radio Shack guys. He did not say that there was a party for the team that he did not go to. What information do you have that there was an actual party for the team that night?
Ahh, you really do love Lance. You've broken out the "Media Conspiracy" defense.
I'm surprised he didn't just say he needed to take a shower.
07-29-09, 07:18 AM
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I'd like to know why there hasn't been any criticism of Armstrong's childish, unsportsmanlike behaviour with Contador...
1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.
As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
Peace.
1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.
As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
Peace.
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I'd like to know why there hasn't been any criticism of Armstrong's childish, unsportsmanlike behaviour with Contador...
1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going on.
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.
As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
Peace.
1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going on.
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.
As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
Peace.
A public proclomation that Contador is our only protected rider would have only served to make life easier, particularly early in the Tour, for other teams.
Given that Bruyneel has now been the DS for 9 TDF wins, I am slow to second guess his management of a grand tour effort.
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I'd like to know why there hasn't been any criticism of Armstrong's childish, unsportsmanlike behaviour with Contador...
1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going on.
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.
As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
Peace.
1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going on.
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.
As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
Peace.
And I meant why there has been no criticism of him in the media... not on BF :-)
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There has been criticism of Armstrong in the media. Most of the english articles you find are a bit tame, but there are still non-biased media outlets out there who do report the news and not a huge advertisement of one of Armstrong's sponsors.
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Velonews and Cyclingnews.com had reported that. The dinner that the OP was referring to was the celebratory dinner on the eve of the final stage of the Tour. It's a custom that dates back to the early beginnings of the Tour. Armstrong purposely missed this for his own selfish reasons.
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I don't think it would have been necessary to state that in public. Stating it within the team sounds like it would have resolved a lot of the internal controversy and mistrust.
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Uhm, it seems that Bruyneel's team won th Tour, placed another 3rd, had 3 top tens,and won a couple of stages. I think most folks would be satisfied by those results.
A public proclomation that Contador is our only protected rider would have only served to make life easier, particularly early in the Tour, for other teams.
Given that Bruyneel has now been the DS for 9 TDF wins, I am slow to second guess his management of a grand tour effort.
A public proclomation that Contador is our only protected rider would have only served to make life easier, particularly early in the Tour, for other teams.
Given that Bruyneel has now been the DS for 9 TDF wins, I am slow to second guess his management of a grand tour effort.
How smart is that? Oh he'll make money with Team Radio Shack...But who does JB fear the most now? AC that's who and who is going to put all his energy into beating AC? JB that's who. JB's "tactics" for this race were dumb dumb dumb dumb.
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I could be wrong but my understanding is that in the early beginnings of the Tour the riders were on their own and did not ride as teams. Also there have been alot of years that the Tour ended with a time trial on the last day. Did LeMond win the tour one year because the guy who was leading the Tour on the eve of the final stage ate too much at the celebratory dinner the night before?
Actually, the Tour traditionally ends on the Champs d'Elyssee after the riders do a few laps. AFAIK, the race has only ended with a final time trial on the last day on two occasions in its long history. The last one being Greg Lemond's dramatic comeback victory in 1989.
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I'd like to know why there hasn't been any criticism of Armstrong's childish, unsportsmanlike behaviour with Contador...
1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going on.
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.
As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
Peace.
1) Johan made a huge mistake by not naming Contador the undisputed team leader. And, he could have made this a stipulation of Armstrong coming back to race for him. As a result, we have these intra-team antics going on.
2) Lance Armstrong could have been man enough to realize that Contador is easily stronger than him. He could have decided to check his ego, for once in his life, and actually ride for another member of his team. 90% of the peloton rides in the service of others. Yes, he did not attack or follow Contador (probably because he would have been even more embarrassed that the young Spaniard can put him in his place). The point is that all of this could have been avoided.
3) Finally, Armstrong "missed" the team party for Contador. Are you kidding me? It'd be nice for him to realize that his time is over and be respectful, decent about it.
As far as I'm concerned Armstrong is spoiled and arrogant. Hopefully, he's finally gotten a reality check. Cycling doesn't revolve around you buddy.
Peace.
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Geez. That photo is creepy. Why does Armstrong think it's all about him. Alberto won the Tour. This should be his celebration.
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Actually, the Tour traditionally ends on the Champs d'Elyssee after the riders do a few laps. AFAIK, the race has only ended with a final time trial on the last day on two occasions in its long history. The last one being Greg Lemond's dramatic comeback victory in 1989.
