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Old 06-19-12, 08:41 AM
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Isn't it getting old by now? Everyone knows both Lemond and Lance used drugs. In fact they used to use them together because they were lovers and doping each other was part of their kinky love play. Then one of them cheated (they both privately claim it was the other), and now they hate each other with a fiery passion and accuse each other of all sorts of things (except what's really bothering them because they don't want to be publicly outed). If only they'd just kiss and make up, life would be a lot easier for everyone.

Now, did I offend the everyone's fanboys equally?
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Originally Posted by himespau
Isn't it getting old by now? Everyone knows both Lemond and Lance used drugs. In fact they used to use them together because they were lovers and doping each other was part of their kinky love play. Then one of them cheated (they both privately claim it was the other), and now they hate each other with a fiery passion and accuse each other of all sorts of things (except what's really bothering them because they don't want to be publicly outed). If only they'd just kiss and make up, life would be a lot easier for everyone.

Now, did I offend the everyone's fanboys equally?
Pics or it didn't......ah, actually no thanks, I'm out.
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Originally Posted by daveF
No, you don't. Have you used? If you haven't then making broad generalizations is just guess work.
Boy, Dave, you got me there. My personal experience with PED's is limited to strong Cuban coffee and those things we called Greenies when I played high school baseball back in the early 70s.

I'm happy to report my average drive in our high school baseball games reached the warning track after I started taking fistfulls of the greenies. Earlier my best efforts were routine popups. My contacts with the ball still resulted in outs but I looked good doing it at least.

Chicks love the long ball.
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Originally Posted by Old Town
Boy, Dave, you got me there. My personal experience with PED's is limited to strong Cuban coffee and those things we called Greenies when I played high school baseball back in the early 70s.

I'm happy to report my average drive in our high school baseball games reached the warning track after I started taking fistfulls of the greenies. Earlier my best efforts were routine popups. My contacts with the ball still resulted in outs but I looked good doing it at least.

Chicks love the long ball.
I have 1st & 2nd hand experience. That is why I laugh at some of the stupid comments cycling fans make that everyone, even the lowliest support rider in the peloton uses PED's.
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Originally Posted by himespau
isn't it getting old by now? Everyone knows Lemond used drugs.
AGAIN, where did you come up with this, please site your work/source/proof of such?

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Originally Posted by ianstew
didnt he get some iron shots or something during the tour? Or vitamins or something? I thought i remember reading that about him. Seriously asking, not stirring the pot.......
Post it...iron shots= not cheating
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Originally Posted by Old Town

Greg was getting a load of steroids and anphetamines only an adult steer could appreciate.

AGAIN, you know this how? please post your work....how do you continue coming up with this, and yet can cite NO source claiming he did as you claim? Want to know how you can get me to stop asking you for the proof? POST IT!!!! oTHERWISE, you continue looking more and more foolish, and proving several people's points here that you're just a disgruntled Lance fanboy, who doesn't know s&^%.

POST the FACTUAL info/CREDIBLE source that says Lemond doped please? You're like a broken record, why cant you just answer the question?

Also, please stop with the insults, and citing baseball/football/whatever other sports you've cited. Please cite what I've asked you for(this is about the 7th time ive asked you for it)

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Originally Posted by bellweatherman
Take your thread hijack to another place. This thread is about Armstrong, not Greg Lemond.
Thank you....he cant answer the question, he shouldnt be posting anything but the FACTUAL proof/credible sources he supposedly has that claim that Lemond doped.
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$100 says LFF has built a shrine to Lemond in his living room.
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Originally Posted by Old Town
canam73: You got some potential for this stuff. I'm startin' to dig on you. LOL

For a while there I thought the Bell was kinda fun. But the more I read, the more I understand he's really serious about this crap.
And the more we read from you, the more we realize just how full of it you are and you know NOTHING about the topic
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
$100 says LFF has built a shrine to Lemond in his living room.
Nah, why would he build a shrine to his son? He can just call him on the phone.
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Originally Posted by himespau
Nah, why would he build a shrine to his son? He can just call him on the phone.
Greg might have stopped taking his calls.
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[QUOTE=himespau;14376990]Nah, why would he build a shrine to his son? He can just call him on the phone.[/QUOTE

My favorite so far. LOL

LeMond's Mom: Calm down, lady. You're gonna blow a blood vessel. This stuff really isn't important. Your boy is in the clear, and besides, it was a long time ago.

Now I have one question for LeMond Lover and anyone else with an opinion on this guy. We all get a free guess: How old are you? With the avatar name like LemondFanForeve I have to think you are well under 30. Probably in your early 20s if you are not a teenager. Your lip-smacking love of an athlete you don't even know seems like something a juvenile would be prone to.

I'm just curious. You remind me of the kids I see at sporting events wearing team sweaters with player's names on the back. A kid can get away with that silly stuff. Not so much an adult. Same with online avatars.

So come clean - you're all of 17 with cystic acne and no girl friend. Right?

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Originally Posted by Hezz
Incorrect, this means that an amount of a certain drug was not found at high enough levels to be a positive, but that a whole lot of other blood parameters are not normal. And are showing a picture of doping. See, like Richard Nixon said. It's not the crime that get's you caught. It's the coverup. All of Armstrong's blood levels were too perfect to be true. Indicating very sophisticated blood manipulation.
https://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...-france_172784
The above article contradicts what USADA has said. Unless all those ranked 4 & above are "consistent with EPO use and blood doping". And, if that is the case, then we should have seen multiple cases in multiple countries.

"Those in the five lower categories warranted barely any scrutiny, with perhaps only one biological parameter giving scientists reason for concern, according to the paper.
The samples of riders in category five warranted “precise, and sometimes more affirmative commentary” from scientists, said the report, suggesting they may have been involved in some kind of manipulation.
Those in categories six and above (6-10) showed “overwhelming” evidence of some kind of doping, due to “recurring anomalies”, “enormous variations” in parameters, and even the “identification of doping products or methods”, according to L’Equipe."

[h=3]Pierre-Edouard Sottas’ list, published in L’Equipe
(Team affiliation in 2010)[/h]Level 10
Carlos Barredo (Quick Step)
Yaroslav Popovych (RadioShack)
Level 9
Denis Menchov (Rabobank)
Level 8
David de La Fuente (Astana)
Jose Ivan Gutierrez (Caisse D’Epargne)
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Matthew Lloyd (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
Iban Mayoz (Footon-Servetto)
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Rinaldo Nocentini (Ag2r La Mondiale)
Daniel Oss (Liquigas-Doimo)
Kevin Seeldrayers (Quick Step)
Konstantin Siutsou (HTC-Columbia)
Jurgen Van den Broeck (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
Level 7
Jeremy Hunt (Cervélo)
Andreas Klöden (RadioShack)
Tony Martin (HTC-Columbia)
Christophe Moreau (Caisse D’Epargne)
Michael Rogers (HTC-Columbia)
Wesley Sulzberger (FDJ)
Level 6
Linus Gerdemann (Milram)
Christian Knees (Milram)
Egoi Martinez (Euskaltel-Euskadi)
Francesco Reda (Quick Step)
Alessandro Petacchi (Lampre-Farnese)
Mauro Santambrogio (BMC)
Geraint Thomas (Sky)
Level 5
Alessandro Ballan (BMC)
Matti Breschel (Saxo Bank)
Alberto Contador (Astana)
Cyril Gautier (Bbox Bouygues Telecom)
Iniaki Isasi (Euskaltel-Euskadi)
Serguei Ivanov (Katusha)
Vladimir Karpets (Katusha)
Alexander Kolobnev (Katusha)
Kartsen Kroon (BMC)
Steve Morabito (BMC)
Benjamin Noval (Astana)
Jose Joaquin Rojas (Caisse D’Epargne)
Niki Sorensen (Saxo Bank)
Alexander Vinokourov (Astana)
Bradley Wiggins (Sky)
Level 4
Lance Armstrong (RadioShack)
Janez Brajkovic (RadioShack)
Bernard Eisel (HTC-Columbia)
Cadel Evans (BMC)
Pierrick Fedrigo (Bbox Bouygues Telecom)
Juan Manuel Garate (Rabobank)
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Jesus Hernandez (Astana)
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Christian Vande Velde (Garmin-Transitions)
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Bret Bookwalter (BMC)
Dimitri Champion (Ag2r La Mondiale)
Gerald Ciolek (Milram)
Rui Costa (Caisse D’Epargne)
Damiano Cunego (Lampre-Farnese)
Maura da Dalto (Lampre-Farnese)
Francis de Greef (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
Kevin de Weert (Quick Step)
Markus Eibegger (Footon-Servetto)
Imanol Erviti (Caisse D’Epargne)
Tyler Farrar (Garmin-Transitions)
Fabio Felline (Footon-Servetto)
Juan Antonio Flecha (Sky)
Maxim Iglinskiy (Astana)
Vasili Kiryienka (Caisse D’Epargne)
Roman Kreuziger (Liquigas-Doimo)
Mathieu Ladagnous (FDJ)
Robbie McEwen (Katusha)
Maxime Monfort (HTC-Columbia)
Sergio Paulinho (RadioShack)
Joaquin Rodriguez (Katusha)
Andy Schleck (Saxo Bank)
Chris Anker Sorensen (Saxo Bank)
Sylvester Szmyd (Liquigas-Doimo)
Paolo Tiralongo (Astana)
Amets Txurruka (Euskaltel-Euskadi)
Johan Van Summeren (Garmin-Transitions)
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Charles Wegelius (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
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Eros Capecchi (Footon-Servetto)
Mark Cavendish (HTC-Columbia)
Steve Cummings (Sky)
Rémy Di Gregorio (FDJ)
Mathias Frank (BMC)
Oscar Freire (Rabobank)
John Gadret (Ag2r La Mondiale)
Francesco Gavazzi (Lampre-Farnese)
Vladimir Gustov (Cervélo)
Thor Hushovd (Cervélo)
Christophe Kern (Cofidis)
Thomas Lovkvist (Sky)
Sebastien Minard (Cofidis)
Daniel Navarro (Astana)
Grischka Niermann (Rabobank)
Stuart O’Grady (Saxo Bank)
Ruben Perez (Euskaltel-Euskadi)
Christophe Riblon (Ag2r La Mondiale)
Thomas Rohregger (Milram)
Luis Leon Sanchez (Caisse D’Epargne)
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Frank Schleck (Saxo Bank)
Simon Spilak (Lampre-Farnese)
Bram Tankink (Rabobank)
Stijn Vandenbergh (Katusha)
Benoit Vaugrenard (FDJ)
Jens Voigt (Saxo Bank)
Eduard Vorganov (Katusha)
Level 1
Marcus Burghard (BMC)
Sandy Casar (FDJ)
Anthony Charteau (Bbox Bouygues Telecom)
Sylvain Chavanel (Quick Step)
Julian Dean (Garmin-Transitions)
Michael Delage (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
Martin Elmiger (Ag2r La Mondiale)
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Jakob Fuglsang (Saxo Bank)
Robert Gesink (Rabobank)
Xavier Florencio (Cervélo)
Adam Hansen (HTC-Columbia)
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Robert Kulge (Milram)
Alexander Kuchinsky (Liquigas-Doimo)
Daniel Lloyd (Cervélo)
Mirco Lorenzetto (Lampre-Farnese)
Martijn Maaskant (Garmin-Transitions)
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Marten Wynants (Quick Step)
Level 0
Mario Aerts (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
Yukiya Arashiro (Bbox Bouygues Telecom)
Stéphane Augé (Cofidis)
Michael Barry (Sky)
Francesco Bellotti (Liquigas-Doimo)
Alberto Benitez (Footon-Servetto)
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Manuel Cardoso (Footon-Servetto)
Dries Devenyns (Quick Step)
Samuel Dumoulin (Cofidis)
Julien El Fares (Cofidis)
Simon Gerrans (Sky)
Anthony Geslin (FDJ)
Bert Grabsch (HTC-Columbia)
Chris Horner (RadioShack)
Robert Hunter (Garmin-Transitions)
Kristjan Koren (Liquigas-Doimo)
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David Le Lay (Ag2r La Mondiale)
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Koos Moerenhout (Rabobank)
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Juan Jose Oroz (Euskaltel-Euskadi)
Rémi Pauriol (Cofidis)
Mathieu Perget (Caisse D’Epargne)
Gregory Rast (RadioShack)
Mark Renshaw (HTC-Columbia)
Nicolas Roche (Ag2r La Mondiale)
Jurgen Roelandts (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
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Jérémy Roy (FDJ)
Mathieu Sprick (Bbox Bouygues Telecom)
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Sebastien Turgot (Bbox Bouygues Telecom)
Niki Terpstra (Milram)
Brian Vandborg (Liquigas-Doimo)
Jurgen VandeWalle (Quick Step)
Ivan Velasco (Euskaltel-Euskadi)
Thomas Voeckler (Bbox Bouygues Telecom)
Fabian Wegmann (Milram)
David Zabriskie (Garmin-Transitions)

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Maybe I will stick around for a bit longer.
It is cheap entertainment. Welcome back fellow gator wrestler.
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[QUOTE=Old Town;14377237]
Originally Posted by himespau
Nah, why would he build a shrine to his son? He can just call him on the phone.[/QUOTE

My favorite so far. LOL

LeMond's Mom: Calm down, lady. You're gonna blow a blood vessel. This stuff really isn't important. Your boy is in the clear, and besides, it was a long time ago.

Now I have one question for LeMond Lover and anyone else with an opinion on this guy. We all get a free guess: How old are you? With the avatar name like LemondFanForeve I have to think you are well under 30. Probably in your early 20s if you are not a teenager. Your lip-smacking love of an athlete you don't even know seems like something a juvenile would be prone to.

I'm just curious. You remind me of the kids I see at sporting events wearing team sweaters with player's names on the back. A kid can get away with that silly stuff. Not so much an adult. Same with online avatars.

So come clean - you're all of 17 with cystic acne and no girl friend. Right?

As soon as you "come clean" and post and tell us all where you got your info that Lemond 'cheated/doped", since you continue dodging the question(and looking bad in the process), I guess that proves that you're lying about it. More insults...I see you've learned a bit from your leader Lance. PS, not even close on the age. F

Lets review:

First you trash Armstrong, then you start trashing Lemond claiming he "cheated/doped", I ask you numerous times to please cite where you get your info(which you still havent posted, and doubt you ever will) on that & now that you've been called on it, to try to save face, you've been reduced to insults such as: mom jokes & claiming someone else is in love with someone, when you were doing the very same thing early on? Again, please show your work that I have "lip smackin love" for someone? Where did you get this info, please explain?

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Originally Posted by daveF
I have 1st & 2nd hand experience. That is why I laugh at some of the stupid comments cycling fans make that everyone, even the lowliest support rider in the peloton uses PED's.
You cant reason with him, it's pointless. YOU post facts, he doesn't.
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You are mighty defensive about ol' greg.........i think you dug the fanboi lip smackin love hole yourself.....

I'm not sayin', im just sayin'.........

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All I know is Lemond doped. No doubt about it. Know what I am saying. You gotta agree.

I hope they catch him.

Originally Posted by LemondFanForeve
You cant reason with him, it's pointless. YOU post facts, he doesn't.
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Originally Posted by reef58
All I know is Lemond doped. No doubt about it. Know what I am saying. You gotta agree.

I hope they catch him.


Another thread hijack by LemondFanForeve and his accomplices. This is just one of the many threads about Armstrong that these people turn into a Lemond hate thread. Just one of the many tactics of the Armstrong camp to divert negative attention from Armstrong to someone else.
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Originally Posted by bellweatherman
Another thread hijack by LemondFanForeve and his accomplices. This is just one of the many threads about Armstrong that these people turn into a Lemond hate thread. Just one of the many tactics of the Armstrong camp to divert negative attention from Armstrong to someone else.
You could try starting a Lemond hate thread and see if it gets turned into an Armstrong hate thread. Be creative.
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[QUOTE=canam73;14378506]You could try starting a Lemond hate thread and see if it gets turned into an Armstrong hate thread. Be creative.[/QUOTE

Good line. I wish I'd thought of it.
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Originally Posted by LemondFanForeve
Post it...iron shots= not cheating
I believe it was lead, not iron.
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Originally Posted by Terex
I believe it was lead, not iron.
Another great line. I'm not getting my shots off fast enough. LOL

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