Have you ever ridden one over 100 miles, and not liked it.

No, I've never ridden a recumbent for more than 100 miles. But, I've ridden a road bike over 100 miles many, many times without any problems.

Despite your baseless arguments, the reason that traditional road bikes are much more popular has nothing to do with people being closed-minded. Recumbents have been around for more than a century. A century of cycling has shown that traditional road bikes are, for most people, the better option.

I seriously doubt he has either.

Remember in the early 30s when a level two professional rider was winning all the races he entered, at the behest of the bike mfg, recumbent bikes were outlawed by the stiff necked old fools at the UCI that probably took money under the table, and they were out of style for 50 years or so. Then if DF bikes are a "better option" as you say, why are there so many of us that think otherwise and ride bents?

I will leave you with this--------------------------as they say we get too soon old and too late smart. After some 60 years I for one got smart.

No. You've just convinced yourself that something that works best for you (and a small fraction of cyclists) is the best choice for everyone. It's an old song, and everybody is tired of hearing it. Give it a rest.

Diamond Frame. I prefer to use, "Upright" since it makes a nice counterpart to, "Recumbent." Besides, some sensitive individual might think DF stands for something objectionable.

Double fenetration?

All well and good, but some day you too will get old and smart too, and realize that cycling means more than the right bike, the right kit, the right speed, the right cadence, the proper length of ride, and a proper goal when you ride. You will learn that no one is watching you or cares how you ride, or if you appear to be a proper cyclist. You will learn it is just fun and go out and ride your ride the way it feels good to you, and just enjoy the ride. Cycling can be fun.

But in some cases it just might be.

And the push back against bents is just as objectionable.

There's very little pushback against recumbents – there are just a lot of people who are tired of your constant proselytizing.

Fixed that typo for you ... you're welcome.

I took Prof. David Wilson's recumbent for a spin 1976. Knew right away that bike was the real deal; that had it been equipped with race gear and wheels, it would be fine ride. (Also caught up to him and rode with him several times. He as not slow. I was faster because I was a mid 20s in form racer and he was middle aged.) But that recumbent lacked on feature that I live for. The dance. (Out of the saddle climbing. My happy place.) Gotta solve that or I have to become unable to ride DFs for me to switch.

Oh, and ever since that ride I have known that a small front wheeled, short wheelbase under the knees steerer was it. I don't see a lot of those.

This thread was moved over here to the recumbent thread. I see that you followed it over here to continue your incessant snotty attacks.

It doesn't have to be an either/or thing. I bought a used recumbent two seasons ago and rode it exclusively for about 6 weeks @ 200-300 miles a week including a late season 400k. I like riding my recumbent a lot, but I still prefer my uprights for brevets because it's more fun to ride with other people who are on the same kind of bike. So last season I rode uprights pretty much exclusively until the Fall. I would ride my recumbent a lot more, but the muscles it uses are a lot different and I'm afraid it will make me slower on my uprights if I spend too much time on the recumbent early in the season.

That depends on the neighborhood--Canaryville or Wrigleyville, big difference. And whether one is from Chicago or moved there.

You should have posted it here in the first place. But you know that....

Do you feel threatened by recumbent bikes and trikes?

Do you get angry when a high racer passes you when riding into the wind?

Bottom line sticking to an 1890 style of bike is kind of dumb. Time moves on. Dont be an old fud new and better things do get invented you know.

But people over here have already learned to diversify.

I didn't notice that! I found another list of safest American cities while looking for the one I used. Chicago was like #2 or #3, and Lincoln was #46 or so. I was pretty surprised. :-)

People have a hard time with the concept of incidents per 100,000 vs just raw numbers. Our raw numbers are high, but our population is gigantic.

Do you realize you have responded to the same post (#62) three times?

Hey, maybe we agree on something:

It would seem that recumbent bikes would be the ideal solution for randonneuring. And in the last dozen years or so, I can think of 11 recumbent riders in the local randonneuring club, plus one or two I'm overlooking no doubt. Exactly zero of them are still doing randonneur rides on a regular basis. One of them might sometimes, but he's just as likely to be on road bike or velomobile. I think four of them are currently riding upright bikes rather than recumbents (more gravel/mountain than road bikes).

I hate riding on gravel. I was on the farm and had to ride gravel to school from the 3rd grade to the 10th grade. I got my fill of gravel. I might add that a fat tire trike would be quite safe on gravel.

A Fat Tire trike, unless e-assisted ($$$) is NOT something I would need to be convinced to avoid. Haven't you noticed you don't see any fat tire bikes anymore on the roads? You didn't stop to wonder why that was? And while I am here I might observe that the likelihood of buying anything bike, trike or bike/trike related is very, very low for at least another year! About all that is left is the stuff nobody wants (for good reason) or niche products like cargo bikes and unicycles and frightuflly expensive factory e-assist roadbikes. Being in evangelist mode right now comes off as a bit tone deaf to say the least.

Actually quite often I see and hear fat tire bikes on the hard surface trails here in town. Personally I couldnt stand the noise to ride one on hard surface trails.