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Originally Posted by Allister
(Post 5718710)
No, I get it. Road bike vs recumbent bike races have their place. They at the very least clearly demonstrate the technological advantage of the bike. In the early days of bike racing, building and racing the better technology was very much a part of the competition. The idea that it's purely rider against rider only came about much later, and effectively stagnated the development of bike technology other than in fairly superficial ways. I understand you think that rider vs rider is the ideal, but it's not the only way to see things.
At this point I'm just splitting hairs. If all those "ZOMG I SMOKED A ROADIE" threads had titles like "HEY, I JUST CONFIRMED THE FACT THAT A 'BENT IS MORE AERODYNAMICALLY EFFICIENT THAN AN UPRIGHT BY SMOKING SOME UNSUSPECTING ROADIES!" I wouldn't really care. It all comes down to semantics for me.
Originally Posted by Allister
(Post 5718710)
Do you also think it's an unfair advantage in the hills to have the lightest bike possible?
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Honestly this has been fun. I'm mildly amused that our visitors from the other forums have got their shammies in a wad over it. But the consensus six months ago was that it wasn't a race and that the roadies in the original video weren't trying to make it one. Neither were *most* of the upright riders in the Hilly Hundred videos, which were not much more than raw footage showing what it's like to be on a lowracer.
One thing I've noticed over the years is that the 'roadie smoking' posts have decreased in direct proportion to the decreased number of "get a real bike" or "dork" comments I hear. Coincidence? Probably not. |
I remember see'ing a super fast tandom ahead of me and trying to catch up on a giro20 , ( NOT ) but I would sure like to try again with my hurricane , maybe I won't peuk this time lol :D ,,note: a few roadies passed me by the side of the road and said nothing while a tri rider slowed down l and asked if I needed help , I laughed and said thanks no worries
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lol casually passing 2 roadies on the hoods in a race they don't know about because they're on a recovery ride. bents make me lol..thanks for the thread
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
(Post 5720701)
One thing I've noticed over the years is that the 'roadie smoking' posts have decreased in direct proportion to the decreased number of "get a real bike" or "dork" comments I hear. Coincidence? Probably not.
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
(Post 5720701)
Honestly this has been fun. I'm mildly amused that our visitors from the other forums have got their shammies in a wad over it.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
(Post 5716021)
Many upright riders seek an advantage by building up a 16# bike with the most aero wheels and parts that they can afford. Bentriders just take it a step further and bust free of the "safety" frame that's been around for over a hundred years. It's funny how a $1,000 set of wheels on an upright isn't cheating but an aerodynamic bent is. :rolleyes:
If you get an aero advantage by riding behind someone else (i.e. you rely on them pedaling hard so that you can move fast), that's called strategy. Remember: ride smart, not hard. Your ability to report a decent cruising speed may depend on it. |
Originally Posted by carlfreddy
(Post 5721923)
Yeah, some people are rude. As a cyclist, I'd never chastize another cyclist because of their choice of bike. Recumbent or upright, we're all cyclists.
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Smoked Roadies? :D
http://www.sacredrock.com/Nowicki's%...smokehouse.jpg Sorry, the title of this thread just put a really strange image in my head ;) |
Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
(Post 5722301)
Smoked Roadies? :D
http://www.sacredrock.com/Nowicki's%...smokehouse.jpg Sorry, the title of this thread just put a really strange image in my head ;) That's way off. Not enough spandex. Also there is not a recumbent sausage in front of them with a video camera. |
Originally Posted by 'nother
(Post 5722320)
That's way off. Not enough spandex. Also there is not a recumbent sausage in front of them with a video camera.
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are you lowracers becoming elitist snobs like the FG/SS crowd...?...kinda what it feels like in here.
you gonna start letting your bike dictate the kind of music you listen to and the people you hang out with soon too huh, or maybe get into an argument about how bikes are about aesthetic beauty and not function...? |
Originally Posted by Crash716
(Post 5722883)
are you lowracers becoming elitist snobs like the FG/SS crowd...?...kinda what it feels like in here.
you gonna start letting your bike dictate the kind of music you listen to and the people you hang out with soon too huh, or maybe get into an argument about how bikes are about aesthetic beauty and not function...? (Now my beloved spouse....a Granola Munching hippie bent rider ;), but she's a cyclist still :D ) |
Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
(Post 5722379)
Spandex is removed prior to smoking.......synthetics adversely affect the flavour ;)
I figured flavor (taste?) wouldn't matter to someone willing to go through the trouble of "smoking" someone, only to get that withered, depilated skin and the tough under-saddle meat. |
Just lookkin at that makes my hinny hurt
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Originally Posted by Crash716
(Post 5722883)
are you lowracers becoming elitist snobs like the FG/SS crowd...?...kinda what it feels like in here.
you gonna start letting your bike dictate the kind of music you listen to and the people you hang out with soon too huh, or maybe get into an argument about how bikes are about aesthetic beauty and not function...? Not all of 'em of course, but enough, unfortunately. |
Originally Posted by Crash716
(Post 5722883)
are you lowracers becoming elitist snobs like the FG/SS crowd...?...kinda what it feels like in here.
you gonna start letting your bike dictate the kind of music you listen to and the people you hang out with soon too huh, or maybe get into an argument about how bikes are about aesthetic beauty and not function...? This is my "Smoking Roadies" recumbent bike concept. It incorporates splitter technology to go real fast and smoke every single roadie I see on the road and bike path. The #1 advantage of this recumbent speed machine is the integrated carbon porcelain toilet seat. I can go on the fly and keep spinning while I pass thousands of roadies at century races and bike tour races. I can do century races and bike tour races nonstop My next roadies smoker recumbent concept will have dual video cameras, GPS, umbrella, XM radio with big speakers and flag. I want to race in style while smoking up the roads with my high tech recumbent. http://bp3.blogger.com/_3vzB3gabkDs/.../Got2GoCom.jpg |
Originally Posted by STEEKER
(Post 5712085)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :rolleyes: hilly one hundred http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s...stampede-1.flv
The "Hilly Hundred Stampede" lowracer made that little girl in the trail-a-bike cry when he dropped her.;) http://lh5.google.com/jim859n/R1C4AG...trailabike.jpg Seriously, I like racing videos. I'd like to see a video of a lowracer taking on a group of racers that actually know about the race, especially if the course had some hills and some cornering, to make it interesting. |
Originally Posted by rm -rf
(Post 5724053)
The "Hilly Hundred Stampede" lowracer made that little girl in the trail-a-bike cry when he dropped her.;)
http://lh5.google.com/jim859n/R1C4AG...trailabike.jpg Seriously, I like racing videos. I'd like to see a video of a lowracer taking on a group of racers that actually know about the race, especially if the course had some hills and some cornering, to make it interesting. Everyone there knew it was a race. What fun is that? No sneak attacks! And only 32 MPH? Wussy. :D |
Originally Posted by NoCom_rider
(Post 5723741)
Crash,
This is my "Smoking Roadies" recumbent bike concept. It incorporates splitter technology to go real fast and smoke every single roadie I see on the road and bike path. The #1 advantage of this recumbent speed machine is the integrated carbon porcelain toilet seat. I can go on the fly and keep spinning while I pass thousands of roadies at century races and bike tour races. I can do century races and bike tour races nonstop My next roadies smoker recumbent concept will have dual video cameras, GPS, umbrella, XM radio with big speakers and flag. I want to race in style while smoking up the roads with my high tech recumbent. http://bp3.blogger.com/_3vzB3gabkDs/.../Got2GoCom.jpg |
Oh!
Big News!!!! Something for Bentlingers to gloat about for the ages. A recumbent won several hill climb events. Not just "hilly hundreds", but pure hill climbs, no flats, no downhills. Check it out: http://lowkey.djconnel.com/2007/overall/ The overall winner won on a 'bent! Isn't that amazing!?!?! Oh....did I mention he had a 500W electric motor? That is why it says "Hybrid" for his category. That's still cool though, right? I mean, a 'bent beating roadies is never un-cool!? |
I wonder........
I wonder if the bent racer rode one of these beauties to win those competitive hill climbs. This is the bent ticket for flying up hills when the hunt is on to smoke roadies
http://bp3.blogger.com/_3vzB3gabkDs/...prop+steed.jpg
Originally Posted by 'nother
(Post 5724225)
Oh!
Big News!!!! Something for Bentlingers to gloat about for the ages. A recumbent won several hill climb events. Not just "hilly hundreds", but pure hill climbs, no flats, no downhills. Check it out: http://lowkey.djconnel.com/2007/overall/ The overall winner won on a 'bent! Isn't that amazing!?!?! Oh....did I mention he had a 500W electric motor? That is why it says "Hybrid" for his category. That's still cool though, right? I mean, a 'bent beating roadies is never un-cool!? |
Originally Posted by rm -rf
(Post 5724053)
The "Hilly Hundred Stampede" lowracer made that little girl in the trail-a-bike cry when he dropped her.;)
http://lh5.google.com/jim859n/R1C4AG...trailabike.jpg Seriously, I like racing videos. I'd like to see a video of a lowracer taking on a group of racers that actually know about the race, especially if the course had some hills and some cornering, to make it interesting. There's no difference between using a bike that has better aroedynamics, and drafting. The big question should be, would the winner of RAAM do better on his upright, or on an aerodynamic ride? Same rider, different bikes. Muscle groups adjusted to both types of ride would tell which one was better. |
Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
(Post 5724831)
Riding like a triathlon, no drafting?
There's no difference between using a bike that has better aroedynamics, and drafting. ... Drafting introduces all sorts of tactical elements into the equation - when do I take a pull, how long, when do I jump & try to break, etc. How many races have seen loooong breakaways amount to nothing because the two knobs at the front start playing mind games with each other as the peloton closes in? That's what makes it fun to watch! And beyond that, better aerodynamics and drafting are not mutually exclusive. It really is a lot like sailboat racing. Hobies are fast, except they don't point well (by contrast AC boats aren't all that fast, but they point obscenely well). But in general, Hobies are fast enough that the tactical games of covering don't have much meaning. It's a different game. A fast guy on a Laser or even a Sunfish is going to know how to optimize his boat and himself to beat the other guys on that kind of boat. It doesn't matter that the Hobie skipper comes in and says "Ha, I smoked a 'fish today." It doesn't matter because it's irrelevant. |
Originally Posted by NoCom_rider
(Post 5723741)
Crash,
This is my "Smoking Roadies" recumbent bike concept. It incorporates splitter technology to go real fast and smoke every single roadie I see on the road and bike path. The #1 advantage of this recumbent speed machine is the integrated carbon porcelain toilet seat. I can go on the fly and keep spinning while I pass thousands of roadies at century races and bike tour races. I can do century races and bike tour races nonstop My next roadies smoker recumbent concept will have dual video cameras, GPS, umbrella, XM radio with big speakers and flag. I want to race in style while smoking up the roads with my high tech recumbent. http://bp3.blogger.com/_3vzB3gabkDs/.../Got2GoCom.jpg |
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