tiller effect?
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barry4838
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tiller effect?
I just do not understand the term. I have seen it numerous times and read some explanations, but none were very explanatory. Please explain in simple language. Thanks.
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hmBldr

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Originally Posted by barry4838
I just do not understand the term. I have seen it numerous times and read some explanations, but none were very explanatory. Please explain in simple language. Thanks.
https://www.easyracers.com/images/side.jpg
Some people are very sensitive, others seem to adapt with no trouble. If the bike design gets too long, most builders switch to remote linkages to eliminate the problem. The linear and longbikes do this.
https://www.linearrecumbent.com/linear_lwb.htm
https://www.longbikes.com/
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Originally Posted by barry4838
I just do not understand the term. I have seen it numerous times and read some explanations, but none were very explanatory. Please explain in simple language. Thanks.
Tiller isn't necessarily bad. For the praying hamster position, when the arms are hanging from the bars, the arms' weight tends to help center the steering, making it stable when riding in a straight line. Where it becomes a hassle is in slow-speed, tight turns, where it requires moving the hands through a larger distance in order to turn the bike.
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When you get to very long lwb recumbents like the tour easy, the tiller effect gets more significant.
Tiller Effect is a phenomenon directly related to some but not all LWB design "Bents". It is caused by the relationship of the handlebars to the riders reach. The old style horizontial handlebars that was associated with Rans and Burley models where notorious for this problem. The Rans V-Squared (pre-2003), the Burley Limbo and Taiko. Rans alleviated most of the problem with the introduction of the new model handlebars and risers. Tiller Effect has the feeling of floating from side to side while steering which in turn could cause oversteering and in turn could cause an accident. A fellow reumbent rider was the proud owner of a V-Squared. It was his first recumbent but not the first one he had ridden. Tiller Effect got the best of him within a few days and he returned it to the LBS and traded the V Squared for a Rans Tailwind. I am the proud owner of both the TourEasy and Ti-Rush and I have never experienced tiller effect with these two (2) "Bents". I installed Kalloy adjustable stems on both "Bents" but prior to installation I rode the TE for a few months with the original handlebar configuration with no problem.
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Tiller Effect is a phenomenon directly related to some but not all LWB design "Bents". It is caused by the relationship of the handlebars to the riders reach. The old style horizontial handlebars that was associated with Rans and Burley models where notorious for this problem. The Rans V-Squared (pre-2003), the Burley Limbo and Taiko. Rans alleviated most of the problem with the introduction of the new model handlebars and risers. Tiller Effect has the feeling of floating from side to side while steering which in turn could cause oversteering and in turn could cause an accident. A fellow reumbent rider was the proud owner of a V-Squared. It was his first recumbent but not the first one he had ridden. Tiller Effect got the best of him within a few days and he returned it to the LBS and traded the V Squared for a Rans Tailwind. I am the proud owner of both the TourEasy and Ti-Rush and I have never experienced tiller effect with these two (2) "Bents". I installed Kalloy adjustable stems on both "Bents" but prior to installation I rode the TE for a few months with the original handlebar configuration with no problem.
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