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Old 08-13-08 | 06:02 PM
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Mother****ing **** **** **** ****. Trying to change my cog and it's on so tight that even rotafixing backwards won't loosen it. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-13-08 | 06:05 PM
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Just to be sure: you've already taken the lock ring off, right?
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Old 08-13-08 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by elTwitcho
Mother****ing **** **** **** ****. Trying to change my cog and it's on so tight that even rotafixing backwards won't loosen it. Any suggestions?
Did you use red Loctite? If so, the only solution is FIRE..
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Old 08-13-08 | 06:08 PM
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Yeah Lock-ring was taken off. That was on tight as hell but I could at least remove it. I'm stumped
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Old 08-13-08 | 06:09 PM
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Maybe have a buddy hold the wheel and then you can put your weight behind the wrench.
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Old 08-13-08 | 06:20 PM
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Hrm, roomate is back so I'll get him to hold while I twist. For anyone who's ever done a rotafixa before, turning counter clockwise tightens, so clockwise should loosen, yeah? I can't get over how tight this thing is on. Jesus
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Old 08-13-08 | 06:26 PM
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it is "fixed" after all
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Old 08-13-08 | 06:30 PM
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haha. I got it. It looks like there might have been a tiny bit of blue loc tite on there. Both my roomate and I had to crank the wheel to get it off. Next time I see an 800 lb gorrilla in Urbane I'll know what operator looks like (who built my bike and apparently could torque a tree right out of the ground using a chainwhip). Thanks guys
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Old 08-13-08 | 08:28 PM
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Operator = 800 lb gorilla = NFW not even close, more like a spider monkey.
Keith on the other hand tells cogs to 'git on there and STAY, damnit'
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Old 08-13-08 | 08:56 PM
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operator is an 800GB gorilla ... on the internet. IRL, he could safely ride pegs.
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Old 08-13-08 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
Operator = 800 lb gorilla = NFW not even close, more like a spider monkey.
Keith on the other hand tells cogs to 'git on there and STAY, damnit'


I just cleaned up my drivetrain tonight, I kind of want to go down to a 15T on the back and elTwitcho's account of cog removal makes me a little paro... But hell, this thing I know for sure was rotafixed on all by my legs, so hopefully it shouldn't be /too/ bad.

It's been *cough* possibly over 1000 miles since I last cleaned my chain (eek), so now that I had chance, I decided to go do it Stupid lack of time! She was a filthy, filthy girl... but will be buttery smooth tomorrow, oooh yeah
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Old 08-13-08 | 09:19 PM
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1000 miles est. last wash?!? please tell me you lubed more often than that...

everyone should drop the coin for a chain whip - best money i ever spent on a bike tool.
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Old 08-13-08 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kergin

everyone should drop the coin for a chain whip - best money i ever spent on a bike tool.
Spend the $ on the big ***** Park one. It has a great, long tubular handle and comes with little bolts so you can swap out the chain when you need too.
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Old 08-13-08 | 10:39 PM
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I have this one:



It isn't as durable as the SR-2, but it gets the job done.

while we're on tools - why is it that with bike tools you either buy crap or you fork out $ for Park? Its not always true, all my Hozan tools are really well made, but most of the other brands, Axiom, Wrench Force, etc... just make crap that might last 3 or 4 uses. Is it too much to ask for decent tools without getting reamed by Park pricing?
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Old 08-13-08 | 10:53 PM
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I picked up a wrench force wrench which wasn't all bad. Mind you, it was to replace the really crappy wrench that came with my 100 dollar evo tools kit...

The chain whip that came in the tool kit worked out alright for me though. Got my cog on well enough that it didn't fly off on my ride tonight...

Speaking of which, my bike is finally dialed in to where it feels totally comfortable except for the less than ideal but not crappy seat. Took a fork flip and new cog, but it all feels awesome now
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Old 08-13-08 | 10:54 PM
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Unfortunatley it is like that with tools. I look at initial quality and warranty as the deal breakers. I'd buy snap-on all day long if I didn't know Mastercraft will take damn near anything back! And I couldn't agree more with Cavernmech's feelings on Parks big ass whip.
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Old 08-13-08 | 11:04 PM
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Bikes: Menonite black urbanite, probably enough spare parts to make anther one.

yes it's true; operator is an 80lb gorilla.

i saw a version of the rotafix method that involves sticking your ulock through your crank spider to keep it in place. i'll try to find a link....
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Old 08-13-08 | 11:18 PM
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I have a gorilla penis.
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Old 08-13-08 | 11:23 PM
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Okay.
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Old 08-13-08 | 11:50 PM
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The city is shutting off my water for the whole day tomorrow (8am-6pm) so I think i'm gonna try to make it into the city to buy some new straps. Are those laminated Sliva/Marinoni straps still available anywhere?
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Old 08-13-08 | 11:56 PM
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Bikes: Menonite black urbanite, probably enough spare parts to make anther one.

last time i bought a pair it was at bikes on wheels. urbane probably has em too.
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Old 08-14-08 | 12:57 AM
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^Thanks man.
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Old 08-14-08 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kergin
everyone should drop the coin for a chain whip - best money i ever spent on a bike tool.

I've got this guy;



I like it a lot and it's held up well over repeated use BUT I think someone's red loctited cog might have bent a couple plates on it so it doesn't feel quite as sturdy as it once did. Still gets the job done, though.
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Old 08-14-08 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
i saw a version of the rotafix method that involves sticking your ulock through your crank spider to keep it in place. i'll try to find a link....
Don't do it. It'll punch a nice dent in your chainstays... Btw I was totally unable to remove the lock ring on my Urbane wheel. I have a crappy MEC tool though.
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Old 08-14-08 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kergin
1000 miles est. last wash?!? please tell me you lubed more often than that...

everyone should drop the coin for a chain whip - best money i ever spent on a bike tool.
Oh yeah, regular lubes and wipe downs - I don't have to listen, I can feel the thing when it gets dirty (like hitting a rain storm without fenders does best!)... 1000 miles without lube would've been brutal punishment Cleaned and re-greased my axles/dropouts too while I was at it.

Chain feels/sounds a little gritty still, replaced a couple of links - I'm bringing along my new spare and breaker just in case, I've not got a good feeling about this one anymore heh. I did the cleaning thing a few times with toothbrushing too, I may've just left it too long. Have to see how it feels on the road.

I have the same tool as Matt has there, but I got the tool after I'd fitted my cog/lockring so I've not actually put it on my own wheel yet.
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