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Dances With Cars
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Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)
I would just about kill for a lean smoked meat sandwich right now. Damn is it EVER nice out.
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From: Toronto
Bikes: IRO Mark V Pro, IRO Mark V, Rocky Mountain Fusion
Question for you boys and girls;
Let's say you bought an old Gardin road bike frame for $150 with (15 year old) dura ace brakes, levers, deraillures, etc. and a (6 year old) ultegra crankset / bottom bracket and modolo stem and bars... Let's say that you found a hairline crack in the head tube and a bunch of rust and decided to return the bike but think that it would be worthwhile holding onto the parts - what do you think a fair price would be for the components?
Let's say you bought an old Gardin road bike frame for $150 with (15 year old) dura ace brakes, levers, deraillures, etc. and a (6 year old) ultegra crankset / bottom bracket and modolo stem and bars... Let's say that you found a hairline crack in the head tube and a bunch of rust and decided to return the bike but think that it would be worthwhile holding onto the parts - what do you think a fair price would be for the components?
Dances With Cars
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Toronto, Canada
Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)
Can you return it? 50-75bones.
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From: Toronto
Bikes: IRO Mark V Pro, IRO Mark V, Rocky Mountain Fusion
Yeah, the guy that sold it is totally cool - he just asked what i thought was fair for the parts and i have 0 idea. Thanks Andy.
Dances With Cars
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From: Toronto, Canada
Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)
that's just me though let others chime in too
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From: Toronto
Bikes: '08 Marinoni Pista, '05 specialized langster(RIP), '06 norco kokanee(RIP), '05 norco charger(RIP),'08 surly steamroller, surly big dummy coming soon!
Here's an answer to a question nobody asked: what do I want at teh bike show? a: a sturdy bike I can put a front and rear rack on, full fenders and all that good stuff. I want to be able to carry my kit to work by bike (approx. 50+ lbs. of camera stuff). Byah!
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On the east side Swartz's Deli https://www.schwartzsdeli.com/ is a piece of Canadiana and a Montreal gotta-go place, and not just a few minutes walk from the base of the mountain, hmm lunch? Be prepared to wait outside if you go during actual lunch or dinner hours. Totally worth the wait as you wil have the best smoked meat sandwich in existence. Moses is rumored to have eaten there.
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On the east side Swartz's Deli https://www.schwartzsdeli.com/ is a piece of Canadiana and a Montreal gotta-go place, and not just a few minutes walk from the base of the mountain, hmm lunch? Be prepared to wait outside if you go during actual lunch or dinner hours. Totally worth the wait as you wil have the best smoked meat sandwich in existence. Moses is rumored to have eaten there.
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thanx TJammer!
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a friend suggested today we do a coffeeshop hop -- can't believe no one in this thread suggested it earlier. brilliant.
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Bikes: Apollo fixed winter bike, Gazelle Cross, Baboe Cargo bike, Linskey Rouleur Road, Bridgestone Picnica, Tern C7, 2nd gen Strida
I had coffee after golfing on the island today..
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Bikes: Apollo fixed winter bike, Gazelle Cross, Baboe Cargo bike, Linskey Rouleur Road, Bridgestone Picnica, Tern C7, 2nd gen Strida
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From: where the sunbeams end and the starlight begins
Bikes: Kona Unit, planet X cx bike, khs fixed gear
I got an on-one other doofer. I did a review of it here https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=414050 although I need to patch the image links. My current opinion is that it's not well suited for the lower gear ranges I wanted. When I get some cash, I'll be getting the Soulcraft Convert. The other advantage of the convert is that it releases so you can remove the rear wheel without tools . On the off chance it might work on your bike. I'd be open to selling the other doofer if you want to try it out.
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Ah.. duh! Gotcha. Then yes, there's definitely folding 650B tires. eg. https://www.velo-orange.com/grboc65x32ti.html
I'm looking for something to use as a porteur/city bike, not as a tourer (although the versatility is nice), so my needs are a little different. I'm not sure that I'd want a 650B bike to take someplace remote because of the parts availability issue.
I'm looking for something to use as a porteur/city bike, not as a tourer (although the versatility is nice), so my needs are a little different. I'm not sure that I'd want a 650B bike to take someplace remote because of the parts availability issue.
With some patience and searching an older steel mtb could cheaply be converted into a city/poteur bike. Most will have rear fender and rack mounts, and a rigid fork will have at least fender mounts. The mtb fork I picked up from urbane has fender and rack mounts, and the fender mounts on the fork legs as well. I'll post some pics of the bike soon.
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Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Ottawa, Ontario
Bikes: Apollo fixed winter bike, Gazelle Cross, Baboe Cargo bike, Linskey Rouleur Road, Bridgestone Picnica, Tern C7, 2nd gen Strida
Sorry Pyze, slipped my mind. Just give a shout and come by and grab it.
I'm slowly converting my Raliegh Record into a porteur. However, I'm unconvinced that having a substantial load on a front rack is a particularly good idea, especially when an extra-cycle DIY maybe a better option. So I may end up making it a "porteur-lite" rather than a seven rail CETMA type of porteur. Some smaller elegant racks or maybe a handlebar bag or something.
I'm slowly converting my Raliegh Record into a porteur. However, I'm unconvinced that having a substantial load on a front rack is a particularly good idea, especially when an extra-cycle DIY maybe a better option. So I may end up making it a "porteur-lite" rather than a seven rail CETMA type of porteur. Some smaller elegant racks or maybe a handlebar bag or something.
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From: where the sunbeams end and the starlight begins
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Sorry Pyze, slipped my mind. Just give a shout and come by and grab it.
I'm slowly converting my Raliegh Record into a porteur. However, I'm unconvinced that having a substantial load on a front rack is a particularly good idea, especially when an extra-cycle DIY maybe a better option. So I may end up making it a "porteur-lite" rather than a seven rail CETMA type of porteur. Some smaller elegant racks or maybe a handlebar bag or something.
I'm slowly converting my Raliegh Record into a porteur. However, I'm unconvinced that having a substantial load on a front rack is a particularly good idea, especially when an extra-cycle DIY maybe a better option. So I may end up making it a "porteur-lite" rather than a seven rail CETMA type of porteur. Some smaller elegant racks or maybe a handlebar bag or something.
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With some patience and searching an older steel mtb could cheaply be converted into a city/poteur bike. Most will have rear fender and rack mounts, and a rigid fork will have at least fender mounts. The mtb fork I picked up from urbane has fender and rack mounts, and the fender mounts on the fork legs as well. I'll post some pics of the bike soon.
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Bikes: Apollo fixed winter bike, Gazelle Cross, Baboe Cargo bike, Linskey Rouleur Road, Bridgestone Picnica, Tern C7, 2nd gen Strida
Eeewww. Sorry, I love mescal and all that, but the coconut thing did me in. I'll be around off and on this weekend. Sandra is off to Guelph to do some marking so I may tag along to play disc golf at the arboretum. Just give a shout and see if I'm around.
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Question for you boys and girls;
Let's say you bought an old Gardin road bike frame for $150 with (15 year old) dura ace brakes, levers, deraillures, etc. and a (6 year old) ultegra crankset / bottom bracket and modolo stem and bars... Let's say that you found a hairline crack in the head tube and a bunch of rust and decided to return the bike but think that it would be worthwhile holding onto the parts - what do you think a fair price would be for the components?
Let's say you bought an old Gardin road bike frame for $150 with (15 year old) dura ace brakes, levers, deraillures, etc. and a (6 year old) ultegra crankset / bottom bracket and modolo stem and bars... Let's say that you found a hairline crack in the head tube and a bunch of rust and decided to return the bike but think that it would be worthwhile holding onto the parts - what do you think a fair price would be for the components?
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So I says to Mable I says
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Bikes: '05 Urbanite Fixie, '06 Lemond Croix de Fer, '06 Jamis Dragon Pro, '07 IRO Bikeforums Track, '07 Planet-X Uncle John
I think I read somewhere recently that for porteurs they used to have fairly steep head-angles (which lessens the steering flop effect), paired with a fork with lots of offset. The Kogswell stuff is 73.6º for the 59cm/650B. Weren't early 90's mtbs in like the 60-something range?
Not Superstitious
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From: Toronto
Bikes: IRO Mark V Pro, IRO Mark V, Rocky Mountain Fusion
Haha, who am I kidding? None of these projects will EVER get finished!
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Bikes: 2004 Litespeed Siena, 1996 Litespeed Obed, 1992 Miele (unknown model), 1982 Meile Uno LS.
In Velo Veritas
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Bikes: Menonite black urbanite, probably enough spare parts to make anther one.
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Bikes: '08 Marinoni Pista, '05 specialized langster(RIP), '06 norco kokanee(RIP), '05 norco charger(RIP),'08 surly steamroller, surly big dummy coming soon!
Slack angles are your friend when carrying gear. An older early 90's mtn bike with rack mounts would be the bomb. A Kona Ute? https://www.konaworld.com/09_ute_c.cfm
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I think I read somewhere recently that for porteurs they used to have fairly steep head-angles (which lessens the steering flop effect), paired with a fork with lots of offset. The Kogswell stuff is 73.6º for the 59cm/650B. Weren't early 90's mtbs in like the 60-something range?
I've been thinking of doing a 650B conversion as well; they are supposedly pretty comfy and I think that a 700c frame looks pretty good with 650B wheels. This guy's bike from the FGG Open-Design contest is particularly inspiring:
https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/cont...NilsSandin.htm

https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/cont...NilsSandin.htm





