BB30 to GXP shim problem
#26
No, that force is not exerted laterally on the bearings. That is the point and why your tech did not crank down on the crank arm bolt...it would lock the bearings. The left crank arm should bottom on the crank spindle when fully torqued down. Spacers should not interfere with this tightening. When the crank is tightened completely best case is the crank is line to line with the lateral spacer stack such that there is negligible side load on the bearings. Hope that makes sense.
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#27
No, that force is not exerted laterally on the bearings. That is the point and why your tech did not crank down on the crank arm bolt...it would lock the bearings. The left crank arm should bottom on the crank spindle when fully torqued down. Spacers should not interfere with this tightening. When the crank is tightened completely best case is the crank is line to line with the lateral spacer stack such that there is negligible side load on the bearings. Hope that makes sense.
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#28
Makes perfect sense. I just got back from both shops and here's the skinny. Bottom line, these adapters (model PF30) are not compatible with the new Cannondale bb30 shell. The drive side adapter bottoms out on the shell before the crank arm can be torqued down to spec. I got an email back from Wheels Manf. and they said their BBUNIV model would be the one to go with. Looks like the two negative reviews of these adapters on Amazon were correct after all. Now I gotta decide, new bb adapters, new praxis works bb, or new bb30 cranks (and new power meter)? Ugh, I probably wouldn't have bought this bike if I'd have known how much trouble this would be.
My vote.
Praxis:
https://www.praxiscycles.com/conversion-bb/
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I don't believe that is correct. If the BB has c clips they have to be removable so there is a smooth bore for the collet system to lock into. It also will not work if there is a lip machined into the bore. Must be smooth bore with no obstructions.
#31
Shoota you can confirm what Grambo said which I agree with by contacting Praxis and asking them. Circlips are removed for the sleeve.
#32
maybe I'm not understanding the docs. It says it only works in bb that utilizes a c-clamp which my frame doesn't have. My bb has two levels. The first level is what the bearing sits in, the middle of the shell is much wider after the lip for the bearing. I should've taken a picture, dang it.
https://www.praxiscycles.com/wp-conte...RAME-GUIDE.pdf
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#33
Do you have a link that says that? The Praxis sleeve with NOT fit with circlips in place. The ID of the circlips is smaller than the OD of the sleeve. Where are you getting your information?
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So shoota, tell us exactly what kind of BB shell you have. What ID? What width? No grooves for circlilps? Help us understand what you have. The adapter may require a shell that takes circlips, but it surely doesn't install with the clips in place. There should be a sleeve for your ID whether circlips are involved or not.
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It has to be a removable c clip system. To install the Praxis BB you would remove the c clips. The issue may be that rather than c clips u have a lip machined into the bore in which case the Praxis bb will not work. If it is a smooth bore it will work.
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This is the bearing I found out works for me, as I just went through this same thing this weekend. CHROMIUM STEEL BEARING KIT FOR TRUVATIV GXP
I was recommended to change cranks by 2 shops, they were stumped with getting my set-up to work. I run a praxis-works bb and it works pretty well now.
I was recommended to change cranks by 2 shops, they were stumped with getting my set-up to work. I run a praxis-works bb and it works pretty well now.
#38
No circlip, not smooth bore. That's what I'm trying to get at. There are all sorts of different levels or diameters inside that shell.
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This is the bearing I found out works for me, as I just went through this same thing this weekend. CHROMIUM STEEL BEARING KIT FOR TRUVATIV GXP
I was recommended to change cranks by 2 shops, they were stumped with getting my set-up to work. I run a praxis-works bb and it works pretty well now.
I was recommended to change cranks by 2 shops, they were stumped with getting my set-up to work. I run a praxis-works bb and it works pretty well now.
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Good luck.
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That's what I'm saying. Damn it.
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#46
He can still make it work...just needs the correct Whl Mfg spacers or buy the correct BB30 crank...latter is what the frame is designed for.
#48
Your frame is not the same as the OP's. A Praxis BB will not fit in his frame.
#49
Not really. The OP is swimming upstream. His frame is designed for a BB30 crank and not the GXP crank he is trying to retrofit.
He can still make it work...just needs the correct Whl Mfg spacers or buy the correct BB30 crank...latter is what the frame is designed for.
He can still make it work...just needs the correct Whl Mfg spacers or buy the correct BB30 crank...latter is what the frame is designed for.
BB/PF30 Universal Adapter for 22/24mm Spindle Cranks (SRAM/TruVativ)
sram red ds, rival stages nds. GXP from a few years ago.
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Not really. The OP is swimming upstream. His frame is designed for a BB30 crank and not the GXP crank he is trying to retrofit.
He can still make it work...just needs the correct Whl Mfg spacers or buy the correct BB30 crank...latter is what the frame is designed for.
He can still make it work...just needs the correct Whl Mfg spacers or buy the correct BB30 crank...latter is what the frame is designed for.




lol. I do get what you're saying though. But what does it matter where the crank threads stop tightening down? That force (approx. 40nM) would be exerted on the bb30 bearings no matter what right??

