Have about $800 to spend on new wheels
07-23-15, 01:22 PM
#27
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Burbank
Posts: 465
Bikes: Fuji roubaix 1.1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Do you never ride in crosswinds?
For a rec rider the gains are moot for deeper section...and the cons quickly add up, handling as well as cost, as well abraking, as well as durability. My HED Belgium+ may not have looked as sexy as one rider's SRAM S60 60mm carbon wunderwheels on this year's Tour de Nebraska...but when we had 20MPH sustained crosswinds with stronger gusts, it was not I who was regretting my equipment life choices.
Cost 20% more than the OP's budget, and have the "feature" where you have to pay through the nose and wait week(s) for parts if anything breaks.
To boot, there are better alloy wheels you can get for the money.
For a rec rider the gains are moot for deeper section...and the cons quickly add up, handling as well as cost, as well abraking, as well as durability. My HED Belgium+ may not have looked as sexy as one rider's SRAM S60 60mm carbon wunderwheels on this year's Tour de Nebraska...but when we had 20MPH sustained crosswinds with stronger gusts, it was not I who was regretting my equipment life choices.
Cost 20% more than the OP's budget, and have the "feature" where you have to pay through the nose and wait week(s) for parts if anything breaks.
To boot, there are better alloy wheels you can get for the money.
07-23-15, 01:24 PM
#28
FLIR Kitten to 0.05C
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 5,331
Bikes: Roadie: Seven Axiom Race Ti w/Chorus 11s. CX/Adventure: Carver Gravel Grinder w/ Di2
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2349 Post(s)
Liked 406 Times
in
254 Posts
actually below budget if you get them through start bike Fulcrum Racing Zero clincher 2015 $659.99 shipped to your door i think thats a steel for a solid race wheel .
07-23-15, 01:50 PM
#29
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 107
Bikes: 2014 Fuji SST 1.3 Frame set build
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
07-23-15, 01:53 PM
#30
L-I-V-I-N
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Stafford, OR
Posts: 4,796
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
I hear you. Some of the lower model Fulcrums (5 and 7) are wider. Hopefully it trickles up the line.
__________________
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
07-23-15, 03:56 PM
#31
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Oakdale, CT
Posts: 173
Bikes: 1998 Specialized FSR 26", 1998 Trek Wade Boots Team Issue 2 XXL 20", 2001 Cortina DH Extreme 8 26", 1999 Sinister DNA (work in progress) 26", 2001 LeMond Zurich (work in progress) 700c
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hope makes some of the best hubs I've owned and abused.
Industry 9 is another hub to look at however the price is up there.
Industry 9 is another hub to look at however the price is up there.
07-23-15, 04:00 PM
#32
:)
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 3,420
Bikes: Cannondale CAAD12, Specialized Rockhopper, Norco Fluid FS1
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 127 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
2 Posts
I was about to get the November Nimbus wheels, but then I decided I wanted colored hubs, so I ponied up for their full custom wheels. Pacenti SL23 v2, WI T-11, 24/28. I really enjoy these wheels. With the options I chose, $750 shipped, which is still under your budget.
07-23-15, 05:37 PM
#33
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 8,276
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
I just plugged in Sapim Laser spokes instead of X-Rays into my BHS build and I'm at a grand total of about $250 before I apply any discounts. I might get 'em just because it's too cheap not to. 
I could get them and something else at that price.
One thing though is I was trying to figure out spoke lengths but didn't see the flange diameter listed on the read SL210 hub. There is a measurement labeled drive and non-drive PCD - anyone know if that is the flange diameter?
I could get them and something else at that price. One thing though is I was trying to figure out spoke lengths but didn't see the flange diameter listed on the read SL210 hub. There is a measurement labeled drive and non-drive PCD - anyone know if that is the flange diameter?
07-23-15, 05:45 PM
#34
L-I-V-I-N
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Stafford, OR
Posts: 4,796
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
I just plugged in Sapim Laser spokes instead of X-Rays into my BHS build and I'm at a grand total of about $250 before I apply any discounts. I might get 'em just because it's too cheap not to. I could get them and something else at that price.
One thing though is I was trying to figure out spoke lengths but didn't see the flange diameter listed on the read SL210 hub. There is a measurement labeled drive and non-drive PCD - anyone know if that is the flange diameter?
I could get them and something else at that price. One thing though is I was trying to figure out spoke lengths but didn't see the flange diameter listed on the read SL210 hub. There is a measurement labeled drive and non-drive PCD - anyone know if that is the flange diameter?
__________________
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
07-23-15, 07:44 PM
#35
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 8,276
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
Yeah tried calling right after work but they were closed already. I'll try again tomorrow. I think I have the calculation right but want to make sure PCD = flange diameter.
07-23-15, 09:04 PM
#36
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Rep. of Dallas
Posts: 1,062
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 52 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I love my daily, November built T-11/CXray/SL-23s. He's about to do a third set of wheels for me, this time for the CX bike. I chose T-11s because they can be fully serviced with hand tools which was the only reason I chose them over R45s. I regret nothing, like my Rail 34s a lot too.
I'll do the Nimbus hub on my CX wheels to save money, I think, but it's definitely worth paying extra for the anodized color hubs. Not only does it look great but when the wheel truck comes by in the race you just say "BLUE/PURPLE/GOLD/PINK HUBS!!!" and they know which ones to grab. For your budget, you can get a wheel that will ride well and have a nice, custom quality so you can drink your $7 coffee and appreciate the American craftsmanship.
I'll do the Nimbus hub on my CX wheels to save money, I think, but it's definitely worth paying extra for the anodized color hubs. Not only does it look great but when the wheel truck comes by in the race you just say "BLUE/PURPLE/GOLD/PINK HUBS!!!" and they know which ones to grab. For your budget, you can get a wheel that will ride well and have a nice, custom quality so you can drink your $7 coffee and appreciate the American craftsmanship.
Last edited by SirHustlerEsq; 07-23-15 at 09:09 PM.
07-23-15, 09:08 PM
#37
L-I-V-I-N
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Stafford, OR
Posts: 4,796
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
^ I'd rather have that T11 freehub body over my r45's as well. Luckily I got a really good deal on my hubs. I'd probably have a little buyer's remorse at full MSRP.
__________________
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
07-24-15, 06:36 AM
#38
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,570
Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1851 Post(s)
Liked 679 Times
in
430 Posts
Yep – I was wanting something deeper. What is attractive about them though is a.)it is a complete pre-built wheelset so I don’t have to worry about getting the parts put together b.)they’re fairly light c.)They’re 23mm wide – no idea if this is a big deal d.)they are tubeless compatible – this is a big deal to me, and e.)price is pretty darn good. 
I'll add that my LBS has a very close relationship with BHS.
The rest of the build is CK R45 hubs and Sapim CX-Ray Spokes. The wheels are being rebuilt because the rear was taco'd when I got hit by a car a few weeks ago.
07-24-15, 07:43 AM
#39
Senior Member
I am having my wheelset rebuilt right now with these rims. I had Kinlin 27s on there, but I am going to try these new Kinlin 22s. I have heard nothing but great things about wider rims. The tubeless ability seems nice, but I probably won't take advantage of it now. I briefly considered Hed Belgium Plus and Pacentli SL23 rims, but I have heard from people I fully trust that while the Hed's a very nice, they are very expensive and it's hard to justify the additional cost over the Kinlin or Pacentis, and my LBS who is building the wheels says they have been more impressed by the quality of Kinlin rims than Pacenti.
I'll add that my LBS has a very close relationship with BHS.
The rest of the build is CK R45 hubs and Sapim CX-Ray Spokes. The wheels are being rebuilt because the rear was taco'd when I got hit by a car a few weeks ago.
I'll add that my LBS has a very close relationship with BHS.
The rest of the build is CK R45 hubs and Sapim CX-Ray Spokes. The wheels are being rebuilt because the rear was taco'd when I got hit by a car a few weeks ago.
07-24-15, 07:56 AM
#40
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 3,247
Bikes: Moots Vamoots, Colnago C60, Santa Cruz Stigmata CC, and too many other bikes I don't ride
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 152 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
6 Posts
Hand-built wheels are nice and will get you exactly what you want, but they are probably more expensive than factory wheels.
If you want light weight and don't care about aero, then the wider rim wheelset like Pacenti and HED are really nice. But if you want aero, I would look into Giant's P-SLR1 Aero as an option. They are basically DT Swiss 240 hubs with Giant's own rims and carbon faring.
If you want light weight and don't care about aero, then the wider rim wheelset like Pacenti and HED are really nice. But if you want aero, I would look into Giant's P-SLR1 Aero as an option. They are basically DT Swiss 240 hubs with Giant's own rims and carbon faring.
07-24-15, 08:49 AM
#41
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Sonoran Desert-U.S.A.
Posts: 663
Bikes: Old rusty bucket of bolts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Performance has some kind of a crazy sale right now.
Find Bikes, Cycling Clothing, Bike Parts & Bike Shoes Or Your Local Bike Store at Performance.
Just got the e-mail.
Find Bikes, Cycling Clothing, Bike Parts & Bike Shoes Or Your Local Bike Store at Performance.
Just got the e-mail.
07-24-15, 09:50 AM
#42
L-I-V-I-N
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Stafford, OR
Posts: 4,796
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Crazy Performance 3-day sale? I think that's also called a Friday. 
__________________
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
07-24-15, 01:42 PM
#43
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 389
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Two very good options which are well under budget. You can have either set built for two different weight limits:
PWB Signature Series - Wheels & Wheel Sets
I and some people I know have had wheel sets build by PWB and all have been outstanding.
PWB Signature Series - Wheels & Wheel Sets
I and some people I know have had wheel sets build by PWB and all have been outstanding.
07-24-15, 01:54 PM
#44
L-I-V-I-N
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Stafford, OR
Posts: 4,796
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
Two very good options which are well under budget. You can have either set built for two different weight limits:
PWB Signature Series - Wheels & Wheel Sets
I and some people I know have had wheel sets build by PWB and all have been outstanding.
PWB Signature Series - Wheels & Wheel Sets
I and some people I know have had wheel sets build by PWB and all have been outstanding.
(EDIT: yup, I found it deeper in the spec's. Kinlin/CX-ray/T-11. Those are some nice parts.)
__________________
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
07-24-15, 03:35 PM
#45
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 8,276
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
I pulled the trigger on the BHS stuff today. With the 10% discount it was silly affordable – around $230. At this price I just couldn’t pass it up. I know from experience the rims and spokes I got are fantastic quality. I’ve heard good things about the hubs so I’m hoping they live up to their rep. I’m going to go 2x on the front on a 24 hole Kinlin 27mm rim and 3x in the back on a 32 hole Kinlin 27mm rim. Weight should be in the 1450’ish range. I’m hoping that drops maybe a pound once I replace the OEM Oval branded wheelset Fuji used.
Cool thing is I have plenty of money leftover now to get something else. Maybe take a flyer on some Chinese carbon wheels?
Cool thing is I have plenty of money leftover now to get something else. Maybe take a flyer on some Chinese carbon wheels?
07-24-15, 08:08 PM
#48
Senior Member
Kinlin Wide Range - DCR Wheels - Hand Built Wheels
......and at a sub-100 gram difference for a full wheelset, I'd guess that the aero advantage would easily overwhelm the weight difference.
I'd have to seriously test both extensively to prove what shows on paper but I can't believe the 31t isn't blowing up the wheel market. 24mm wide, 31 deep, alloy rim, alloy brake surface, sub 500gram hoops made by Kinlin is like the best of all worlds in 1 wheel.....imho.
(shrug)
07-24-15, 08:39 PM
#49
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Posts: 2,668
Bikes: 2023 Canyon Aeoroad CF SL, 2015 Trek Emonda SLR, 2002 Litespeed Classic, 2005 Bianchi Pista, Some BikesDirect MTB I never ride.
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 647 Post(s)
Liked 136 Times
in
89 Posts
I don't doubt they're nice rims, but definitely not much lighter.......
Kinlin Wide Range - DCR Wheels - Hand Built Wheels
......and at a sub-100 gram difference for a full wheelset, I'd guess that the aero advantage would easily overwhelm the weight difference.
I'd have to seriously test both extensively to prove what shows on paper but I can't believe the 31t isn't blowing up the wheel market. 24mm wide, 31 deep, alloy rim, alloy brake surface, sub 500gram hoops made by Kinlin is like the best of all worlds in 1 wheel.....imho.
(shrug)
Kinlin Wide Range - DCR Wheels - Hand Built Wheels
......and at a sub-100 gram difference for a full wheelset, I'd guess that the aero advantage would easily overwhelm the weight difference.
I'd have to seriously test both extensively to prove what shows on paper but I can't believe the 31t isn't blowing up the wheel market. 24mm wide, 31 deep, alloy rim, alloy brake surface, sub 500gram hoops made by Kinlin is like the best of all worlds in 1 wheel.....imho.
(shrug)
07-24-15, 08:50 PM
#50
Senior Member
1150gram seriously uber light wheelset. (paging rms)