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Old 08-12-15 | 11:09 AM
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My chain is catching on the large front chain-ring sometimes instead of shifting to the small ring. It catches on the bottom teeth as shown.



What are some possibly reasons, cross chaining, dirt, bad teeth on ring, etc??? I noticed it happens while in a bigger cog in the back.
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I'm looking to narrow the possibles down on my chain that is hanging in the 6-0'clock position on the large front ring sometimes.
What?
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Old 08-12-15 | 11:26 AM
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"6-O'clock refers the big hand on a clock pointing a the 6. (Front large ring, 6 o'clock position, it hangs/catches.)
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Originally Posted by martslc
"6-O'clock refers the big hand on a clock pointing a the 6. (Front large ring, 6 o'clock position, it hangs/catches.)
He said "What?" because what you said makes no sense.
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Originally Posted by martslc
My chain is catching on the large front chain-ring sometimes instead of shifting to the small ring.

What are some possibly reasons, cross chaining, dirt, bad teeth on ring, etc??? I noticed it happens while in a bigger cog in the back.
Do not shift the front when cross chaining. Better yet, don't cross chain(especially with a triple crank).
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Old 08-12-15 | 03:19 PM
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Might be chain suck.

Have you fitted a new chain recently ? How much use mileage has the big chainring had ? Might be time for a new one.

Some good info here
J LEVY | BikeTechArticles | Chain-Suck : Its causes and mechanisms, How to avoid, prevent, and remedy
Diary of a Mountain Biker

Also check there are no stiff links in your chain.

Chain lube will not make a differrence.

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Old 08-12-15 | 03:26 PM
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Brand new chain, not sure how well is was fitted?? I has someone else tell me that it might be chain suck, what ever that is. LOL I will look at the supplied info, thanks!!

If someone has a link on how to fit a chain correctly please provide and I will verify.

Thanks!!
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Old 08-12-15 | 03:33 PM
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After rereading your post it sounds like cross chaining. Don't use big rear sprockets with the big chain ring. You are forcing the chain to bend laterally whenever you cross chain and big sprocket to big chain ring forces the chain to bend the most as the distance between the two points at which the chain bends is the shortest.

You need to use the middle chainring and a smaller rear sprocket. It will give the same gearing and a straighter chain.

Using a triple exacerbates the problem as the big chain ring must be further out than if you were using a double chain ring setup.

EDIT: a new chain will also bend side to side less than an older worn one.
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Originally Posted by martslc
My chain is catching on the large front chain-ring sometimes instead of shifting to the small ring. It catches on the bottom teeth as shown.

Trying to figure out what this means. To me, it seems like you're saying:

I'm cruising along in my middle ring and when I get to a hill I go to shift into the small ring but my chain wants to shift into the big ring instead.

If that's right, I guess the first thing I'd do is look to see if the big ring is straight.

Which cog are you in when you notice this?
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Trying to figure out what this means. To me, it seems like you're saying:

I'm cruising along in my middle ring and when I get to a hill I go to shift into the small ring but my chain wants to shift into the big ring instead.

If that's right, I guess the first thing I'd do is look to see if the big ring is straight.

Which cog are you in when you notice this?
No sorry, I'm really bad at explanations sheesh. I have a compact 2 ring so what happens happening is I'm going along in the big ring when I hit a hill so I shift to a bigger cog in the rear. Out of the 10 cogs I'm in like 7th of 10 cogs, 10th being the largest. Hope that helps.
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Old 08-12-15 | 10:27 PM
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I didn't think it was possible but your further explanations and pictures have only obfuscated the problem. Congratulations!

So... when you try to shift the front derailleur so that your chain moves from the large to the small chainring, the chain doesn't actually move, is that what you're saying?
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I see the problem.

There is a big red curvy arrow on your big chainring. Remove the arrow and things should be better.
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Use a better chain lube. If that doesn't fix it, use a better degreaser. If that doesn't fix it, try the mechanics forum. If you don't get the right answer there, try your LBS.

If all that seems like too much work, start at your LBS.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
Use a better chain lube.
I can't imagine that chain lube has anything to do with it, plus Dumonde Tech is terrific stuff, IMO of course.
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Originally Posted by Doug28450
I see the problem.

There is a big red curvy arrow on your big chainring. Remove the arrow and things should be better.
Trust an engineer to see the problem right off.
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You probably need to readjust your derailleur.
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I wonder if the chain is too short? Total guess...
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Old 08-14-15 | 07:35 AM
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There's some really great help here!!

Originally Posted by RPK79
Do not shift the front when cross chaining. Better yet, don't cross chain(especially with a triple crank).
Originally Posted by smarkinson
After rereading your post it sounds like cross chaining. Don't use big rear sprockets with the big chain ring. You are forcing the chain to bend laterally whenever you cross chain and big sprocket to big chain ring forces the chain to bend the most as the distance between the two points at which the chain bends is the shortest.

EDIT: a new chain will also bend side to side less than an older worn one.
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I wonder if the chain is too short? Total guess...
Originally Posted by halfspeed
If that doesn't fix it, use a better degreaser. If that doesn't fix it, try the mechanics forum.
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Might be chain suck.

Some good info here
J LEVY | BikeTechArticles | Chain-Suck : Its causes and mechanisms, How to avoid, prevent, and remedy
Diary of a Mountain Biker

Also check there are no stiff links in your chain.

Chain lube will not make a differrence.

There's some really great help here!! Thanks for these suggestions, it gives me a good place to start!!
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