PSIMET Wheels
 

As many know here ive had wheel issues all year running into the ground 20 spoke stock wheels.

More importantly my needs were never met by my LBS as not "one size fits all" when it come to bikes & bike parts.

Someone here gave me a link to PSIMET WHEELS and i have recieved a quote.

Likely going with the Top Shelf hub 28/33 spoke set for $825.

I feel i'm in the right place [finally], thanks for all who helped get me there, PEACE ...:thumb:


PSIMET Custom Wheels

Those Dyads are good, strong rims and not terribly heavy. I used them on my 650b bike I used for touring and absolutely never had an issue with them.

BillyD cut a lot of good info (along with some stuff that needed to go).

They suggested (at different price points): Velocity Dyads and Race spokes with either WI t11, CK r45, or 5800 hubs (28/32 on the first two).

I'm not convinced you need that heavy duty of a rim, but Psimet is a pretty solid outfit and they know their stuff.

I'm more in the 225 range and ride r45's with Pacenti SL23's (28/32; CX-Ray).

It will be interesting to see what happens if they connect the potential customer to your online identity. Please post again when/if you actually get the wheels.

Pretty sure the PSIMET owner posts here regularly, I'm sure he'll pop in. Have fun SLAMDANCING on the new wheels!

Rob will do you right.

270 is heavy duty where i come from ... its not a question of "if" but "when" i break everything else.

Good point, and 270 is a bit more than I had remembered. t11 or r45 hubs seem a little much, but it's your money. And with heavy rims, you'll have to spend it on hubs to cut weight somewhere.

Here's a option that is similar to their lower-end suggestion (or those 5800/Archetypes):
Shimano 105 5800 11 Speed Cyclocross Road Wheelset WTB Chriscross I19 Tubeless | eBay

In terms of Psimet: He (Rob) gets lots of praise around here. The only negative things I remember hearing were some communication issues and wait times during his very early years (growing pains). Seems like he went full hog and hired some solid help since then.

Robs top shelf hubs have a 5 year warranty, estimated weight for the wheelset is 1674g.

I have tons of leg strength shouldn't be a problem.

I want these wheels to be bullet proof for a long time.

Most frames & wheels [stock] max gross weight rating is in the 240 to 260 range.

I have 100 pounds on the average rider, i'm faster than most on the downhill & flats but people get me on the uphill.

I always tell my friends go to the gym, get 100 pounds of iron, put it in a backpack and do a 70 mile ride, thats what i deal with but its not really an issue, just who i am.

In 9th grade football i weighed 200lbs and was the only one that wore mens clothes.

I might be the only person not happy with his wheels. They were great new, but for me, constantly need to be trued. Had 3 different bike shops retension / true them, but a month later, spokes are loose again.

I have 3 sets of wheels and I've only had to true the psimets

I've given up on them and used them on my trainer. I'm 150 to 155 lbs

Hope you enjoy yours though

Yes, I know, I have the same hubs. They are made just around the corner from me. Mine are laced to Pacenti's and the build is roughly 100g less than their estimate (which seems a touch low BTW). Good luck with whatever you choose.

Agreed. I love my PSIMET wheels.

Send them back. He will make them right. You can't rely on an LBS for anything related to spoke tension and trueness.

don't you mean spoke tension and truth?

truthiness

Speak for yourself. I have had zero wheel problems on my touring bike bought from one LBS. Same for the wheels built by the different LBS that also built my new road bike. The former set was properly tensioned and trued during assembly by someone who actually tours and have never been worked on in over 4 years of fully-loaded touring and commuting, including off-road touring. The latter set is more than 2 years old and has also never needed work.

With that said, I do feel sorry for people who do not have access to quality shops staffed by reliable people.

Many shops, but not all, have an experienced wheel builder. It's a generalization to say "you can't rely on an LBS" for that when you CAN, as long as you know and trust the mechanics there.

EDIT: But int his specific case, yeah I'd send them back if I was having issues. He's more likely to get it right.

33 spoke rear wheel? Did you fat finger a key or is this a new take on triplet lacing?

They are several years old now, haven't really used them in awhile either.

At the time, it was pretty hard to get a hold of him which led me to go LBS route. Pus being in Canada was tough with international shipping and such

For reference, here are the wheels he built:
Front=DT 240S F hub laced to a Kinlin XR-300 rim 20f/RadialX using CXRay-Black spokes and DT-12mm-Brass-Silver nipples

Rear=DT 240S R hub with Shimano freehub body laced to a Kinlin XR-300 rim 24r/2X using CXRay-Black spokes on the Drive Side and laced 2X using CXRay-Black spokes on the Non-Drive Side and DT-12mm-Brass-Silver nipples

Don't forget to talk about how you want the wheel to feel. Spoke type, lacing and count can make a big difference, as can hubs.

I have one set of wheels with T11s, Sapim Race and Archetypes. Unbelievably smooth, solid wheels, with some good life to them. A good fit personality-wise for a quick distance steel bike.

I have another set with R45s, CX-rays and Ambrosia rims. Stiffer, much more lively, with a sort of instant-on vibe from the hubs. Great on my race bike.

Both are 3x 32 hole. I'm 215.

Good thing facebook crashed.

That set should never have had any problems. I'm actually pretty well known for never having to touch any of my wheels after the fact. If I had to go out on a limb and guess at what happened - you had someone else true them up and it was all downhill from there. Being in Canada makes it a bear to take care of, but yeah I would have wanted the wheel in my hand to find out what went wrong and to fix it outright.

Technically T11's have a 250 weight restriction. For the OP - yes we remember the quote - the Chris King option was the one he seemed most interested in and I have nothing bad to say about the R45 hub setup and it should withstand his weight. IIRC we also offered up Shimano hub builds on the similar setup. Tiagra actually ends up being a great value for the price point but the weight is added in with the steel hubshell.

The Dyads are actually a really well performing rim that ends up acting like performance style rim under heavier riders. I have been using them both for performance touring applications as well as heavier enthusiast riders for a while with great results.

I also think my lbs was mostly to blame. Been to three different ones and never completely satisfied (various services). Bought a bunch of tools and do most myself now, but still not comfortable with wheels.

If it matters, I've only had issues with the rear. Front has been and is still solid. Probably put 15k km on them before making them a backup set.

Rob has been fantastic to deal with. Helped me pick a build for my needs

Is that total weight of rider and bike, or for the load on each wheel?

GH

That's a "I've got a rider that's 310 - you have any issues with them on a T11 or do you have a beefier mtb hub we can fit with a 130 axle?" - "Oh....I don't really like to recommend use of the T11 for riders over 250. We're pretty conservative."

Welcome to hard weight limit definitions in the cycling industry.

This PSIMET has some strange thoughts. I tried to get him to price me some road carbon clinchers 50 deep by 23 wide, because I read a lot about him and he appeared to be a stand up guy. I weigh in at 195 and live in the Missouri ozarks (smalls Hills not mountains). He basically would not price clinchers to me as he said that they would not work for me. Too Heavy and too many hills He said.

Went elsewhere and have been thoroughly pleased with my my 40 Deep X 25 Wide avenger no name carbon clinchers. Rock solid, great braking and have not needed any truing. Just turning 4000 miles on this set after I ran a chinese set of clinchers 23 wide by 50 deep for another 4000 miles last year. (sold them with my last bike).

He may build good wheels but he doesn't understand what works with road riders and carbon wheels or his wheels don't work as well as others. He needs to understand that carbon clinchers are not what they were 4 or 6 years ago.

An advantage to owning a business is being able to pick and choose your customers.

I asked about Carbon Clinchers, Rob advised me to stay away from them.

I'm taking that advice.

I value someone who tells it like it is instead of telling my what i want to hear to make a sale.

Ultra light components on very fast bikes with heavy riders can have SERIOUS consequences.

It's not a perfect science; no obvious right and wrong. I think there are worse things than being a bit too conservative as a wheelbuilder. Imagine the other scenario: he builds for someone in your shoes but feels a little uneasy about - then they fail, he loses money trying to stand behind the product, and that customer still gives him bad press.

Sounds like prudent advice from someone concerned about your safety and his reputation rather than making a couple of quick bucks.

Doesn't Levi Leipheimer ban carbon clinchers on one of his fondo rides?