He just finished learning to center the stem on his bike (another thread). He is now an expert on all cycling related matters.

"Cruel, but fair"!

Given the superior athletics and co-ordination required to be a basketball player I'm sure Charles could be a TDF contender if he wanted. It didn't take him long to excel at golf after retiring from basketball.

And I am sure I could be a Nobel contender if I just wanted to and had a few more books on my shelf.

Seriously??!! Have you even seen the man swing a golf club?:lol:

broken sarcasm detector.

He's a basketball player with superior skills. You just don't appreciate the subtle skills he brings to a golf swing. You need to open your mind to the way a true athlete plays golf.

This.
Pretty much every reasonable person here has said the same thing:
To reach the top you need great genetics AND a lot of hard (and smart) work.

Centered stem = aero

Aero & big peloton = pro

My apologies, I only read the first and last pages and shot from the hip about what it takes to get to the top, pre coffee.

If you ever earn an infraction your punishment will be to read this entire thread, front to back, without laughing. Or crying.

There will be a quiz.

You too.

This silliness is still going on?
Who knew so many amateurs had first hand knowledge of exactly what training is needed to be a pro and were experts in the field of human genetic variation at the same time...
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*slinks back to the 33*

common sense, empiricism, and collective wisdom goes a long way

otherwise, we'd better wait for a phd geneticist in the nba holding a uci license as the only qualified person on the planet to be able to contribute to this discussion

Yep :)
The study of human genetic variation is of course based mainly upon common sense.
As are the mostly guarded training regimens of elite athletes...
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[MENTION=406877]PepeM[/MENTION] great post. Here's another mention.

Have you ever raced at a high level like the State Champs? It takes a lot of work....or so I'm told.

sure

if you had access to chris carmichael's training schedule you'd ride like hincapie and if your friends had bill belichik's playbook they'd beat the patriots

intuition actually helps in forwarding scientific progress.

but forgetting that, i'd hope you dont think you'd need a background in metallurgy to be reassured that gold is softer than steel or one in medicine to be acknowledge that sherpas have better respiratory systems than flatlanders.

Actually, just making sure Bill doesn't have yours would go a long way towards that goal.

This thread rules.

To be fair, where I'm currently at is far below the level the OP is talking about.

It's the cheese, Grommit.

Important question- Does Pearl Izumi make any NOT BIBS big enough for LeBron? Would his treetrunk legs get adequate compression if the NOT BIBS are under $40? I don't think so, therefore he'd make a terrible competitive cyclist. QED.

The End

Not so. LeBron smokes his cycling competition wearing daisy dukes on a no name Chinese bike because he likes to ride on the wild side. Only reason why LeBron doesn't ride a bike for a living or be a professional golfer like Charles Barkley is he can jump higher and knock over smaller guys like bowling pins. No word on what kind of bowler he is but if he worked on it, I bet he could carry a 150 average.
As to Charles Barkley's golf game, there are 8th grade junior high school girls throughout the country that can beat Barkley at golf from the back tees probably giving him 5 strokes a side. All said as a person, I like Sir Charles for his candor and of course a guy as awful at golf has to eat some serious humble pie being such a good basketball player.