Counter Steering - When to Use?
05-01-17 | 03:21 PM
#226
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We use it very often and very gently on turns (esp faster ones) but I have to (rarely but it happens) employ it on a new and suddenly decreasing-radius turn or if I have entered a bit too hot. We use it more agressively while riding motorcycles since speeds are higher. If you ever do track days, you will learn this really fast.
05-01-17 | 04:25 PM
#227
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The counter steer is subtle and starts the lean. You just don't notice it.
Steering a 1 liter sportbike into a sweeping turn requires more counter steer than it does on a lightweight, twitchy road bike.
I recall having to put pressure on the inner bar. Not so much on a bicycle.
Steering a 1 liter sportbike into a sweeping turn requires more counter steer than it does on a lightweight, twitchy road bike.
I recall having to put pressure on the inner bar. Not so much on a bicycle.
Ive thought about attempting it on a road bike. Not quite sure I have the balls, lol.
05-01-17 | 04:26 PM
#228
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We use it very often and very gently on turns (esp faster ones) but I have to (rarely but it happens) employ it on a new and suddenly decreasing-radius turn or if I have entered a bit too hot. We use it more agressively while riding motorcycles since speeds are higher. If you ever do track days, you will learn this really fast.
Ride safe.
05-01-17 | 04:35 PM
#229
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Braking on 1.5 mm of rubber (when leaned slightly over) has not-so-great results, I have learned. 
05-13-17 | 09:32 AM
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Related to counter steering, wrote an article on fast (downhill, on paved roads) cornering on a bicycle. Tried to explain all the important aspects as briefly as possible (without missing anything important). All the suggestions and corrections are more than welcome:
Fast cornering on a bicycle - on paved roads - Cycle Gremlin
Fast cornering on a bicycle - on paved roads - Cycle Gremlin
