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kenshireen 02-02-16 09:47 AM

Speedplay Walkable Cleats
 
Is it worthwhile getting the walkable cleats.
I keep hearing of covers falling off.

Can you use these cleats without the walkable cover

noodle soup 02-02-16 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by kenshireen (Post 18505946)
Is it worthwhile getting the walkable cleats.
I keep hearing of covers falling off.

Can you use these cleats without the walkable cover

I have for over a decade, and never have an issue.

Some people have issues walking with Speedplay cleats, but some people also have trouble walking while chewing gum.

Nachoman 02-02-16 10:03 AM

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA...UGRxZ/$_35.JPG
Up until this weekend I was using these. But I started my ride with two, and ended up with one.

Marcus_Ti 02-02-16 10:10 AM

OP did you use Light Action or Zero pedals? Those"walkable cleats" are only for those pedal systems. They use a modified cleat with teeth to help better keep the cover on.



Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 18505993)
I have for over a decade, and never have an issue.

Some people have issues walking with Speedplay cleats, but some people also have trouble walking while chewing gum.

Depends on what you are walking on and the conditions. Linoleum freshly mopped at gas stations can be quite tricky without covers. Also naked Speedplay trash other people's floors.


Originally Posted by Nachoman (Post 18506002)
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA...UGRxZ/$_35.JPG
Up until this weekend I was using these. But I started my ride with two, and ended up with one.

I wouldn't mind if these piece of injected molded plastic weren't $20/pair. I've lost my dominant cleat cover from two different sets of these.

kenshireen 02-02-16 10:45 AM

[QUOTE=Marcus_Ti;18506034]OP did you use Light Action or Zero pedals? Those"walkable cleats" are only for those pedal systems. They use a modified cleat with teeth to help better keep the cover on.

I am considering buying the zero with these cleats. is there any drawback to the walkable cleat. Can I use if I lose the cover

noodle soup 02-02-16 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti (Post 18506034)
Depends on what you are walking on and the conditions. Linoleum freshly mopped at gas stations can be quite tricky without covers. Also naked Speedplay trash other people's floors.

It doesn't matter what you walk on, if you know how to walk in them properly. My house has tile floors, and it hasn't trashed them yet.

WalksOn2Wheels 02-02-16 11:15 AM

I have the coffee shop covers. They stay in my jersey pocket and get put on if I want to walk into a store or if I'm in my in-law's house where they have wood floors. I wouldn't spend money on the walkable cleat system because it means buying extra cleats that are designed for an aero advantage you don't need. And they still come with covers to fill in the holes, so you're still putting covers in a jersey pocket.

In short: Buy whatever speedplay pedals you want, they will come with cleats, and then just by the coffee shop covers.

modman 02-02-16 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Nachoman (Post 18506002)
Up until this weekend I was using these. But I started my ride with two, and ended up with one.

I lost three until I found Shoe Goo. A dab of Goo on each has kept them in place.

kenshireen 02-02-16 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels (Post 18506240)
I have the coffee shop covers. They stay in my jersey pocket and get put on if I want to walk into a store or if I'm in my in-law's house where they have wood floors. I wouldn't spend money on the walkable cleat system because it means buying extra cleats that are designed for an aero advantage you don't need. And they still come with covers to fill in the holes, so you're still putting covers in a jersey pocket.

In short: Buy whatever speedplay pedals you want, they will come with cleats, and then just by the coffee shop covers.

From what I can see the pedals and cleats are sold separately... If I can get the walkable cleat system with the Zero pedals is there any downside to this. If you had a choice of the non-walkable and walkable for the same price would you purchase the walkable

WalksOn2Wheels 02-02-16 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by kenshireen (Post 18506323)
From what I can see the pedals and cleats are sold separately... If I can get the walkable cleat system with the Zero pedals is there any downside to this. If you had a choice of the non-walkable and walkable for the same price would you purchase the walkable

Every road pedal I've ever seen, including speedplays, are sold as a pedal and cleat set. They sell replacement cleats, because they do wear out, but pedals are always sold with an included set of cleats. For this reason, I would (and did) purchase the coffee shop covers because they are going for about 10 bucks compared to 50 bucks for additional cleats.

I guess I'm having a hard time answering your question because I don't directly understand your needs here. The "walkable" cleats are really designed with aero in mind, and to me seem a much more expensive and unnecessary route compared to cleat covers. If you want something that will be on you cleats 100% of the time so it's there when you put your foot down at a light, then sure, go for the walkable cleats. Otherwise, an extra 10 bucks will get you very handy, simple to use covers that will store in your back pocket, but give you traction at rest stops, or on tile/wood floors in the house.

kenshireen 02-02-16 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels (Post 18506343)
Every road pedal I've ever seen, including speedplays, are sold as a pedal and cleat set. They sell replacement cleats, because they do wear out, but pedals are always sold with an included set of cleats. For this reason, I would (and did) purchase the coffee shop covers because they are going for about 10 bucks compared to 50 bucks for additional cleats.

I guess I'm having a hard time answering your question because I don't directly understand your needs here. The "walkable" cleats are really designed with aero in mind, and to me seem a much more expensive and unnecessary route compared to cleat covers. If you want something that will be on you cleats 100% of the time so it's there when you put your foot down at a light, then sure, go for the walkable cleats. Otherwise, an extra 10 bucks will get you very handy, simple to use covers that will store in your back pocket, but give you traction at rest stops, or on tile/wood floors in the house.

There is a new zero with chrom-moly on ebay with walkable cleats...$125....I thought this sounded like a great price... I just wanted to know if there is any downside to walkable cleats over regular non walkable.
I keep hearing about things falling off the walkable

WalksOn2Wheels 02-02-16 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by kenshireen (Post 18506380)
There is a new zero with chrom-moly on ebay with walkable cleats...$125....I thought this sounded like a great price... I just wanted to know if there is any downside to walkable cleats over regular non walkable.
I keep hearing about things falling off the walkable

Ok, try here: Speedplay Zero Aero walkable cleats mini review - Weight Weenies

JohnJ80 02-02-16 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by kenshireen (Post 18506144)

Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti (Post 18506034)
OP did you use Light Action or Zero pedals? Those"walkable cleats" are only for those pedal systems. They use a modified cleat with teeth to help better keep the cover on.

I am considering buying the zero with these cleats. is there any drawback to the walkable cleat. Can I use if I lose the cover

There is no drawback if you don't already have cleats. They are much easier to walk on that even the Keep On Kovers. I really like them and recommend them.

TrojanHorse 02-02-16 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by kenshireen (Post 18506380)
There is a new zero with chrom-moly on ebay with walkable cleats...$125....I thought this sounded like a great price... I just wanted to know if there is any downside to walkable cleats over regular non walkable.
I keep hearing about things falling off the walkable

I had the coffee shop covers, lost them inside of a month. Having to put them on every time I stopped was too much trouble, apparently.

I've been using the keep on kovers for about 4 or 5 years now - they're great. Put 'em on, and for the most part they stay on. I got about 9,000 miles out of my last cleats before one of the little spring clips broke and I had to put new cleats on. Before keep on kovers, I'd wear through the screws and the top plate much faster. That little extra bit of traction you get out of plastic rather than metal is nice.

I got the new speedplay walkable cleats for my wife. It's a nice little package. I wouldn't bother with the plugs they give you unless you plan on walking through sand.

SanDiegoSteve 02-03-16 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Nachoman (Post 18506002)
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA...UGRxZ/$_35.JPG
Up until this weekend I was using these. But I started my ride with two, and ended up with one.

After loosing one for the second time, I applied the third replacement with a dab of silicone. It has stayed on since, but that has only been for about 2 months. The others lasted 6-9 months each.

The new walkable cleats are for the X platform and I'm on the zero (I might have that backwards), so that is a more expensive change than the $25 for these covers.

JohnJ80 02-03-16 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 18508986)
After loosing one for the second time, I applied the third replacement with a dab of silicone. It has stayed on since, but that has only been for about 2 months. The others lasted 6-9 months each.

The new walkable cleats are for the X platform and I'm on the zero (I might have that backwards), so that is a more expensive change than the $25 for these covers.


There are two reasons that I switched to the walkable cleats from Speedplay. The first was this issue of the Keep On Kovers coming off. The second is that even though they protect the cleat better, they are still just as awkward to walk in as the unprotected speedplay old style cleats.

J.

Nachoman 02-03-16 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 18508986)
After loosing one for the second time, I applied the third replacement with a dab of silicone. It has stayed on since, but that has only been for about 2 months. The others lasted 6-9 months each.

The new walkable cleats are for the X platform and I'm on the zero (I might have that backwards), so that is a more expensive change than the $25 for these covers.

I just ordered a new pair. This time I think I'll try putting a dab of shoe glue or silicone on to see if that helps.

Garfield Cat 02-04-16 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by JohnJ80 (Post 18509001)
There are two reasons that I switched to the walkable cleats from Speedplay. The first was this issue of the Keep On Kovers coming off. The second is that even though they protect the cleat better, they are still just as awkward to walk in as the unprotected speedplay old style cleats.J.

Perhaps there needs to be an integrated system where the cleat and shoe are designed as one. This is another area where a better engineered product is waiting to happen. Same for shorts (bibs) and saddles.

JohnJ80 02-04-16 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Garfield Cat (Post 18510979)
Perhaps there needs to be an integrated system where the cleat and shoe are designed as one. This is another area where a better engineered product is waiting to happen.

Interesting idea.


Same for shorts (bibs) and saddles.
Let's hope not. I have this vision of a saddle stuck in my bibs that is just not compelling. ;)

J.

ChipSeals 02-04-16 09:45 AM

I use Speedplay Zero Aero Walkables. I've lost two so far in a year.

I'd be hesitant to use Shoe Goo because Speedplays should be kept clean, and you need to remove the walkable portion to clean them.

You actually don't need the round coffee cup cover unless you anticipate walking around in the dirt or sand. I never bring mine.

I like the convenience but they're imperfect. I've stocked up a few extra covers. This must be part of their business plan.



Originally Posted by kenshireen (Post 18505946)
Is it worthwhile getting the walkable cleats.
I keep hearing of covers falling off.

Can you use these cleats without the walkable cover


Garfield Cat 02-05-16 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by JohnJ80 (Post 18511264)
Let's hope not. I have this vision of a saddle stuck in my bibs that is just not compelling. ;) J.

What I was thinking about the saddle and shorts integration is the sit bones positioning. Aside from the contouring (chafing), the sit bones just might be the number one issue. What we have now is the saddle is fixed and the sit bones are the variable. It should be the other way around.

How this can be engineered is difficult when asked to cater to the pro riders on the pro races. But for others, there might be a chance.

SpeshulEd 02-05-16 02:30 PM

I have the keep on covers on one set of shoes and they work well, never had an issue with them falling off. In fact, it's a pain in the ass to get them on because they're so snug around the cleats.

On my new pair of shoes I bought the aero cleats/covers since they were the same price as buying the normal cleats and another set of covers. I haven't had any issues with these falling off either...same thing, they're extremely snug on the cleat.

Nachoman 02-07-16 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by modman (Post 18506255)
I lost three until I found Shoe Goo. A dab of Goo on each has kept them in place.

I bought the shoe goo yesterday and applied a little line of goo at the top and bottom of each kover.
I hope this works.


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