Campag4life

This comes up a lot on the 41. What will this bike do for me? What will these changes to my bike do for my performance? What difference will this $2K wheelset make?

I love Durianrider. He's smart and frank and yes, a bit crude which I am OK with because of preceding two qualities.

How about a $500 bike? Durianrider on a $500 bike will drop anybody on the 41...or at least 99.99% including me. He's a very strong rider who lives cycling.

Enjoy the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHOJ...&nohtml5=False

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfzE...A&nohtml5=Fals


What does Durianrider think is more important that an uber spec'ed bike? Best fit and powermeter.

Listen to his advice. You want to get faster? Ride with faster riders and be willing to punish yourself like they do.

With all the obsessing about bike details on this forum which is fun to talk about and debate...it ain't the bike.

PepeM

Alloy bike with Shimano Sora. Sounds like me. He has mirrors on his bike too.

dvdslw

Was that a zero offset Thomson seat post I spotted? I thought from reading here on the forum that if you had a zero offset seat post you bought the wrong size frame?

OldTryGuy

"......it ain't the bike."

So just how much would one have to pay FROOME and the rest of the TEAM to ride the TOUR on REID bikes if the bike doesn't make a difference**********?

WarrenR

The question should be if Froome and the team had to buy their own bikes what would they buy?

69chevy

And that's the mentality that keeps the market for high end bikes alive...

laf

Of course its not the bike.

But will Durianrider will be faster up Northern Summit on his 500$ bike or wit his Giant Tcr ?

Take your pick


You will also want to ride a nicer bike more often.

Voodoo76

I would destroy Durian in a sprint, skinny little F***, just no hills. I'll admit the dude cracks me up at times. He does seem to have an obsession with doping though. Don't think he can go 5 min w/o mentioning "getting on the gear".

I get the sentiment though. Cycling is unusual in that there are two sports/hobbies rolled into one. Now more than there ever were. There is the riding/fitness/racing etc aspect, kind of always been there. And there is the equipment/tech which has exploded over the last 20 years, starting somewhere around the clipless pedal/STI intro. Most of us (including Duranrider) partake a little in both. But you can have either without the other. It's an interesting twist for cycling compared to most other fitness pursuits (running, lifting) on one side or geeky tech hobbies (PC's, RC whatever) on the other. Everybody balances these a little differently.

Campag4life

His TCR but he admits in the video, not by much.

What I laugh most about on the 41 is the obsessing about wheel weight and bike aero performance. There is a great video on the web that talks about deviating from ideal saddle height by 1 cm matters more than likely any difference between any bike on the market...lol. Many don't even know their optimal saddle height or are riding at the wrong height.

BillyD

Ain't that the truth.

PepeM

They'll ride whatever they get paid to ride. These guys compete on steel bikes, for example.

brn2run

Well I don't really care about anyone else's opinion because FOR ME the bike has has made a difference.
I just stopped using a 15 year old all aluminum Raleigh with 105 and started using an all carbon Jamis with Ultegra.
The first time I did my normal 15 mile workout ride, I did it 3 minutes faster than ever before and that was IN MARCH
not September. (in the Midwest, that makes a difference)
So I realize that comparing 2 brand new bikes may not make much of a difference but comparing what I rode to what I now ride....
well there is no comparison.

OldTryGuy

"it ain't the bike" proponents are saying is if Froome and mates were riding RIED bikes, the outcome would have been the same after 2088 miles????

Not so sure about that......

PepeM

Has anyone actually said that, or are you discussing with a made up person?

Looigi

Kinda. They only get paid as long as they're performing, so they tend to eschew products that jeopardize their ability to perform. As such, you see equipment with blacked out logs or that is relabeled. Back in the day, it even happened with bike frames.

Bandera

It's not about the Hardware, and Never has been.

-Bandera

69chevy

https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/1...n-faster/?_r=0

Bandera

Dear 41,

I'm overweight, have never ridden enough miles to develop a solid base for Endurance, don't ride hills to build Power, never ride with truly fast people to work on Speed and have never bothered to check that my bike fits me. I get dropped by little old ladies on their way to the farmer's market, what should I do?

Dear Bandera,

You need a brand new Team Shy replica aero bike equipped with the latest hydraulic shifting, electric brakes and super deep CF tubular wheels.
Don't forget to buy the Team kit and aero helmet.

-The 41

jamesdak 

Total Rubbish!!!!!!! We all know red makes the bike faster! Jeez, why people live in denial I don't know...

texaspandj

hah.

redfooj

wrong question to ask

try these:

*if bikes of a certain tier have true differentiators -- as marketers try to push you on -- wouldnt all pros steer towards the truly best one?
*peter sagan finished the 2015 tdf stages in 2nd place, 5 instances, in a total of mere seconds . wouldnt he want to eschew the sponsor's bike and $ for 5 extra stage wins and more $$$/fame?
*would people have ever taken merida seriously , as anything more than a cheap taiwanese manufacturer, if they didnt sponsor a tour team?

brn2run

Are you insinuating a comparison between a new bike that weighs 10 lbs. less than the old bike to that of a placebo?

69chevy

Nope.

Just pointing out that that when people believe they can go faster, that belief all by itself can make them faster.

aubiecat

No thanks, if I have to watch videos of biggest ****** on Youtube.

Campag4life

You must be related to Doge who believes 80g of wheel weight matter...lol.