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Old 04-30-16, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by f4rrest
This will probably be my next saddle. Do these work well with a decent saddle-bar drop around 4 inches?
Most of the Brooks I've seen, including in the photo earlier in this thread are set up with bars almost at saddle height.
not sure as my surly has the Aravis saddle close to the height of the handlebars

their Aravis saddle is a touring saddle, but they also have racing saddles .... contact them and ask for their advice

here are some of the saddles:

http://www.bicycleworkshop.co.uk/m2b22s148p0/ACCESSORIES/GILLES-BERTHOUD/Saddles-leather-by-Gilles-Berthoud
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Brooks Team Professional Saddle Is what I have been using on my road , drop Bar touring bike for 30 years

BROOKS ENGLAND LTD. | ROAD+&+MTB | TEAM+PRO+S+CHROME

other similar would be SI Turbo and SM Rolls , but they are not a stretched hammock of thick leather , of course .

as You observed B 17 is wider to work when you sit up more ... bar top level with the saddle .

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Originally Posted by yashinon
How is the Selle Anatomica on a road bike?
My far and away favorite. An NSX. Put my B17 into back-up status.
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Originally Posted by FullGas
me neither...

suits are probably the least practical attire ever invented.
Perhaps. But like a Brooks, they have class.
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Originally Posted by twodownzero
Perhaps. But like a Brooks, they have class.
class...? not following your line of reasoning. who wears a suit unless they're required to...? weddings, funerals, job interviews are the only time I'll put one of those ghastly things on.

srsly, leather saddles are antiquated and seem like a remnant from the 19th century. if you like that vintage look, that's cool.

I wouldn't use one if you gave it to me.

but, in 2016, they're an almost an anachronism. heavy and ugly are deal-killers for most riders.
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Originally Posted by FullGas
class...? not following your line of reasoning. who wears a suit unless they're required to...? weddings, funerals, job interviews are the only time I'll put one of those ghastly things on.

srsly, leather saddles are antiquated and seem like a remnant from the 19th century. if you like that vintage look, that's cool.

I wouldn't use one if you gave it to me.

but, in 2016, they're an almost an anachronism. heavy and ugly are deal-killers for most riders.
I think I figured it out the first time you posted in this thread, that you're not a fan.

It also seems that you really have a hard time understanding that there really are bicycle riders who do not care about saving a few grams of weight.
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Originally Posted by twodownzero
I think I figured it out the first time you posted in this thread, that you're not a fan.

It also seems that you really have a hard time understanding that there really are bicycle riders who do not care about saving a few grams of weight.
+ 1. Plus he's ignoring a lot of really serious riders who prefer them; but then what better way to "win" an argument than to dismiss or ignore all the inconvenient facts?
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Originally Posted by bikemig
+ 1. Plus he's ignoring a lot of really serious riders who prefer them; but then what better way to "win" an argument than to dismiss or ignore all the inconvenient facts?
With that I'm going to go get on my 30+ pound bike and go for a ride. And leave my 17 pound one at home. Because my ass likes the B17 Imperial on the 30+ pound bike today.
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https://youtu.be/i-yP0vWmEUk
i saw this YouTube of a guy who had over 10000 miles on his B 17 his story with this saddle is compleling

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I just recently installed a B17 N on my Desalvo road bike. I've been riding for over 30 years. Inmo it is one of the best saddles I have ever ridden. We are all different but if it works, it works, regardless of what others think. i had zero problems riding the saddle from right out of the box. I did have to buy a 25mm setback seat post

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Brooks Swallow, before and after. More comfortable and IMHO better looking.
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Question: does the B15 Swallow have the same "cradling or hammocking" as the B17 Narrow, you know, with its platform at the horizontal and the nose pointed slightly upwards???? (EDIT) Does the B15 have the same profile left-to-tight and front-to-back as the B17 Narrow???

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Originally Posted by twodownzero
I think I figured it out the first time you posted in this thread, that you're not a fan.

It also seems that you really have a hard time understanding that there really are bicycle riders who do not care about saving a few grams of weight.
Perhaps you can also figure out that with my avatar I am a Brooks fan, although for some reason I was drawn to the Flyer which is even heavier due to the springs. Still, it's the most comfy saddle I have ever used.

One of the most liberating times in a cyclists life is when he (she?) stops worrying about what things weigh...
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Originally Posted by FullGas
class...? not following your line of reasoning. who wears a suit unless they're required to...? weddings, funerals, job interviews are the only time I'll put one of those ghastly things on.

srsly, leather saddles are antiquated and seem like a remnant from the 19th century. if you like that vintage look, that's cool.

I wouldn't use one if you gave it to me.

but, in 2016, they're an almost an anachronism. heavy and ugly are deal-killers for most riders.
Antiquated?
Do you have any clue how many new Brooks saddles are produced and sold each year? People are buying them and riding them.

Ugly?
As compared to what? Molded nylon and carbon fiber? Lol.

Heavy?
Worried about extra grams on your 17lb race bike?
I feel sorry for you
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I have a team pro like fietsbob, a 'conquest' (sprung mtn bike saddle) and one of the bird ones (swallow? sparrow? the less expensive of the 2). The team pro is in retirement at the moment after 11k of my own miles, I passed that bike on to my 14 yr old and he wanted the saddle from his previous bike (veloplush) and I definitely saw no need to subject the team pro to the slings and arrows of the high school bike rack. The bird one is on my winter/abuse bike. I used it, replaced it with a 200g nashbar saddle, broke that, put the brooks back, there it stays. The conquest is fantastic, the bike it is on is all rigid, the spring (very unspringy) is all the suspension I need (plus low pressure tires).

But, the 2 roadbikes I ride the most, no brooks, just modern selle something-or-others. I have done a fair number of centuries on both the team pro and the bird one, and now on these other ones, and I am not finding a huge functional difference for how I ride the road bikes.
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Who's "Brooke"?
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Suits are awesome. Period.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Who's "Brooke"?
Right, and what about his B17..?
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Suits are awesome. Period.
Having been one....that's mostly just what they'd like you to think.
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Originally Posted by bakes1
Antiquated?
Do you have any clue how many new Brooks saddles are produced and sold each year? People are buying them and riding them.

Ugly?
As compared to what? Molded nylon and carbon fiber? Lol.

Heavy?
Worried about extra grams on your 17lb race bike?
I feel sorry for you
It was an ignorant post to begin with.
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Originally Posted by mpath
It was an ignorant post to begin with.
True
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I've tried every manner of modern saddle that exists, but I settled on the Brooks B17 Imperial. I ride about 4,500 miles per year and have NO saddle issues. It does look a little out of place on my Madone, but I don't care. Use what's comfortable for you.
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Originally Posted by dmanthree
I've tried every manner of modern saddle that exists, but I settled on the Brooks B17 Imperial. I ride about 4,500 miles per year and have NO saddle issues. It does look a little out of place on my Madone, but I don't care. Use what's comfortable for you.
Can't really see it when you're riding anyhow...
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Originally Posted by dmanthree
I've tried every manner of modern saddle that exists, but I settled on the Brooks B17 Imperial. I ride about 4,500 miles per year and have NO saddle issues. It does look a little out of place on my Madone, but I don't care. Use what's comfortable for you.
I think it'd look great. I'm really liking the look of the Cambium C13 though too - more "road race" look.
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