Which are your top 2-3 Ti frames?
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im going to go with the old school litespeed just because it was what i always wanted as a little kid looking at bikes. the one with the old school yellow script, i dont really like the new, slope top tube thing that is happening now... so the new school really is nothing i find all that pleasing.. but the traditional diamond frame old school bikes are all great, merlin, litespeed, the rare traditional moots, the eddies, those are the ones i dig.. i really like the vortex too.. its neo traditional, with weird hatchet shaped top tube and down tube.. looks a little battle star galactic but .. it was the last of the traditional shaped litespeed.. then they went to that plain script and slope tube.. i like traditional
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A local rider is selling a ~2010 Mosaic R2 (I know the RT-2, but maybe this is the older version?) for $2,000 with 10-speed DA. I was wondering if it was worth jumping into to try Ti. At that prices, I could likely sell it for a few hundred less and get something new by year-end but I'm not sure if it is a decent deal. Sounds like it is and it is my size but it got me thinking. I'm not sure how the R2 rides, though I suppose he would let me at least take it for a quick spin around the block.
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Nice list except you forgot the 2 that are on top of your list...
Firefly
Kent Eriksen
your list
There, fixed!
Firefly
Kent Eriksen
your list
There, fixed!
What are your top 3-4 Ti frame choices? Maybe a small custom and 1-2 "larger" companies. If I had to choose, I'd probably say:
Moots (prob the Vamoots disc RSL or regular RSL)
Seven (prob Axiom)
Indy Fab (not sure which model)
Alchemy (Ailos)
I know Lynskey is popular but I'm probably going to skip that brand. I like some of the smaller individual guys (Potts, for example) but have not listed any due to long long wait times and some I have no idea about quality and if they will be around if issues arise.
Why do I ask this? Well, I have a couple of nice carbon bikes, a decent aluminum bike, but no Ti. That will be my next ride. I want something relatively stiff that pedals well with just a little bit of compliance for those 70-80 mile rides but most will be 20-40. I do not want something too mushy or soft...it has to be a good climber. So I was starting the thinking process, and need to do some research. I will probably be buying a new MTB next, after which I'll target a Ti bike. The build will be Dura Ace di2 or Dura Ace mech (undecided...prob mech).
Moots is local to me, as is Alchemy. Moots is a bit of a drive but an awesome one. Being local is not a must...just a cool coincidence.
Moots (prob the Vamoots disc RSL or regular RSL)
Seven (prob Axiom)
Indy Fab (not sure which model)
Alchemy (Ailos)
I know Lynskey is popular but I'm probably going to skip that brand. I like some of the smaller individual guys (Potts, for example) but have not listed any due to long long wait times and some I have no idea about quality and if they will be around if issues arise.
Why do I ask this? Well, I have a couple of nice carbon bikes, a decent aluminum bike, but no Ti. That will be my next ride. I want something relatively stiff that pedals well with just a little bit of compliance for those 70-80 mile rides but most will be 20-40. I do not want something too mushy or soft...it has to be a good climber. So I was starting the thinking process, and need to do some research. I will probably be buying a new MTB next, after which I'll target a Ti bike. The build will be Dura Ace di2 or Dura Ace mech (undecided...prob mech).
Moots is local to me, as is Alchemy. Moots is a bit of a drive but an awesome one. Being local is not a must...just a cool coincidence.
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The Mosiac deal fell through. I asked if he had any flexibility on the price and he said he would get back to me ASAP, Then he responded saying the bike was sod to an acquaintance. That's cool though...wasn't meant to be.
While I research these Ti bikes, should I add 2-3 of the steel builder to the list? I like the feel of steel and it is a bit heavier but not by much.
While I research these Ti bikes, should I add 2-3 of the steel builder to the list? I like the feel of steel and it is a bit heavier but not by much.
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Start looking through this. Steel and Ti.
Custom Frame Builders List by State/Country - The Paceline Forum
Custom Frame Builders List by State/Country - The Paceline Forum
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Boy, that is a massive list. I'll pick out the ones I know (Alchemy, Indy Fab, etc.) add any of the newer builders not on the list (Bob English maybe isn't there) and do the same as with Ti....have maybe 10 and then narrow it down to 2-3 US-made frames. I'm probably not going to go with Soma, Kona, Ritchey, Gunnar, Waterford, etc. I'll spend a bit more for sure, but this is going to be a bike I will probably keep forever. Not that the others could not be kept forever but they don't have enough of a desirability factor (in my case).