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No rear brakes to save weight?

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Old 06-11-16, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by joejack951
With a more-than-adequate front brake (like a front disc), the rear brake becomes solely backup, at least for me. With caliper brakes, I do use a little rear so that I'm not squeezing so hard on just one lever.
most of your stopping should be with rear brake. Too much pressure on front only could throw you over the front. ouch!!!
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Originally Posted by hunterr41
most of your stopping should be with rear brake. Too much pressure on front only could throw you over the front. ouch!!!
wrong, but rear braking is very useful on wet roads or surfaces with some loose sand/gravel.

Front brake only is okay on a FG bike, but stupid on a bike with a freewheel/freehub.

Rear brake only is ineffective and stupid.

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Originally Posted by znomit
Since we've figured out that the rear brake serves no purpose we should have two front brakes then.
That works better if you have something like an Extrawheel Voyager hitched in front so you're pushing it, then put a "fronter" brake on it.
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you'll save wt, but you won't be any faster.
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A corollary would be:

no stopping at stop signs to save wait.
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Originally Posted by popeye
You cannot lock the front tire in a straight line on pavement period. Please go try it and tell us what happens.
I have. What happens is brown streaks in my chamois.
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Originally Posted by popeye
You cannot lock the front tire in a straight line on pavement period. Please go try it and tell us what happens.
Gravel sandwich is what happens.
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Originally Posted by popeye
You cannot lock the front tire in a straight line on pavement period. Please go try it and tell us what happens.
Low on spinach are we?

What happens is you go over the bars, you expose the casing on the tire, you slide sideways a bit, or a combination thereof.
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I’ve had brake lever cable capture failure. Glad I had a back-up.
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Originally Posted by wheelreason
Low on spinach are we?

What happens is you go over the bars, you expose the casing on the tire, you slide sideways a bit, or a combination thereof.
The spinach is fine no snark necessary. No, you dont expose tread because a front tire on pavement does not skid. You cannot get your weight far enough aft to stop going over the bars. This is a rehash of a recent thread where one of our own confessed tossing his wife over him and the bars on a tandem when the front tire stopped turning. Yes it does irk me to see this misinformation repeated but then this is BF where every novice poster has an opinion.
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Originally Posted by popeye
The spinach is fine no snark necessary. No, you dont expose tread because a front tire on pavement does not skid. You cannot get your weight far enough aft to stop going over the bars. This is a rehash of a recent thread where one of our own confessed tossing his wife over him and the bars on a tandem when the front tire stopped turning. Yes it does irk me to see this misinformation repeated but then this is BF where every novice poster has an opinion.
Yet when anecdotes are compared to anecdotes they cancel each other out. Like I said already, I've locked the front into a full skid. Therefore, you are wrong and you're the one spreading misinformation.
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In a panic stop, shift your weight back to increase overall braking capacity. Yes, you have to feather the rear, but you also double the contact patch. I would think that shifting back in a panic stop would be reflexive for experienced riders.

On a sketchy descent (low traction) using the rear brake keeps you from locking the front and skidding sideways and eating pavement.

You will only lock your front brake on flat, dry, pavement, if you seize it in a panic grip and don't relax as the bike slows. if some folks have learned some technique to lock up their front brakes at speed ... good job. Maybe try a different technique. Never happened to me, and I have had plenty of chances.

Off-road, it is easy to lock up a front brake---and fall over sideways. Again, one learns to crash or one learns to brake properly. Your choice.

The guy who claims he launched his stoker on a tandem is lying. Simple as that. Fell over sideways? Sure. No way any front tire on any surface can hold against the force of a human being at the end of a five-foot lever. Creative writing is a skill, and story-telling (usually involving considerable exaggeration) has been a feature of human society since before history. Physics, on the other hand, pretty much doesn't change with the times---or the telling.
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Originally Posted by RPK79
You should also remove the seat and seat post to cut weight.
This.
Beat me to it lol
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I use the rear all the time for general slowing. I don't want the rear pads, calipers and rim to feel ignored.

I just don't tell them that the front brake gets the important braking.
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I will chime in......."It depends how dumb you are"
Originally Posted by BillyD
Well it's pretty unanimous, OP, it's a bad idea.

Of course soon somebody is going to come along and say "It depends". There's always at least one in the crowd.
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