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slimjimihendrix 07-27-16 08:10 PM

Deep(er) Section Alloy Wheels
 
Hi all,

I'm in the market for some new wheels. I have a white and yellow Masi Gran Criterium and want some shiny silver wheels, preferably with a deepish section. I have a pair of Mavic Cosmic Experts from back in the 9spd days and they look absolutely gorgeous with it, not that they work or could work with the bike, sadly, but something with that vibe would be preferred. I'd also like to go light and also a bit stiff. I really like the looks of the Superstar Pave 28s, but they don't ship to the US and also don't seem to have the silvers in stock right now. I've seen the H Plus Son Archetypes and would prefer something deeper. The 30 - 35mm range is more appealing to me. Any suggestions of models is GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks so much! :)

sced 07-27-16 08:36 PM

Kinlin XR-300 Clincher Rim - 30mm - 465 grams

Origin8 Rim 700c TA42 32 Silver JYOO2 | eBay

KantoBoy 07-27-16 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by sced (Post 18943444)

I almost went this route.

But if I'm building another set of BHS rims I'd probably copy the old set I had with 24mm (sold it). Can't believe I had a set that was 1250g. It was my climbing/all around wheels. I should've just kept it.

rpenmanparker 07-27-16 09:26 PM

Yeah, the XR-300s are the way to go. Unless you want a wider rim.

slimjimihendrix 07-27-16 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 18943511)
Yeah, the XR-300s are the way to go. Unless you want a wider rim.

What would be your recommended hubset if I'm planning on these being my all-rounders? I'm not against going nice, but as a college student can't afford to go crazy.

jch3n 07-28-16 12:20 AM

Why not Kinlin XR-31Ts? Deeper (by 1mm) and wider than the XR-300s. I guess they are more expensive and slightly heavier...

jwalther 07-28-16 05:30 AM

Thank me later: 2016 Altamont Alloy Clincher front wheel - Boyd Cycling

topflightpro 07-28-16 06:17 AM

Why won't the Mavic's work?

From about 2003 on, every Mavic wheel works with 9, 10 and 11 speed cassettes.

RJM 07-28-16 07:15 AM

Rolf Prima Vigor range of wheels. I've used these for several seasons and am always amazed at the quality of the wheel.

rpenmanparker 07-28-16 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by slimjimihendrix (Post 18943585)
What would be your recommended hubset if I'm planning on these being my all-rounders? I'm not against going nice, but as a college student can't afford to go crazy.

Bike Hub Store Taiwanese hubs. Take your pick from the selection on the Bike Hub Store site. None are too expensive, but there is always one model or more on sale. Reliable, good looking, LIGHT, and CHEAP.

slimjimihendrix 07-28-16 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 18943897)
Why won't the Mavic's work?

From about 2003 on, every Mavic wheel works with 9, 10 and 11 speed cassettes.


They're from before 2003. ;) The more in-depth answer is that they use the FTS system which was used before 10-speed came out and not after. 10-speed and up uses a different body style called FTS-L or FTS-X etc.

mvnsnd 07-28-16 08:59 AM

Not silver, but maybe keep an eye on these: aforcewheels

gettingold 07-28-16 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by jwalther (Post 18943832)

This. 30 mm deep. Got a pair recently and love them.

Sy Reene 07-28-16 06:40 PM

Are there reading comprehension issues on BF? I went thru most of these links/suggestions and don't see any rims that are silver, except for the Origin 8s in the first response.

jch3n 07-28-16 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Sy Reene (Post 18945575)
Are there reading comprehension issues on BF? I went thru most of these links/suggestions and don't see any rims that are silver, except for the Origin 8s in the first response.

Try again. Kinlin XR-300s and XR-31Ts both come in silver.

Sy Reene 07-28-16 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by jch3n (Post 18945644)
Try again. Kinlin XR-300s and XR-31Ts both come in silver.

Apologies, so it seems going to the drop down choices. Couldn't find a picture of these in silver though. Guess it's not too hard to imagine.

slimjimihendrix 07-28-16 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Sy Reene (Post 18945575)
Are there reading comprehension issues on BF? I went thru most of these links/suggestions and don't see any rims that are silver, except for the Origin 8s in the first response.

While the Kinlins and Ori-8s are available in silver, they are the only ones, so yes, I think that would be a fair conclusion to draw. However, I'm still thankful that people took the time to respond, haha :D

slimjimihendrix 07-28-16 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by mvnsnd (Post 18944208)
Not silver, but maybe keep an eye on these: aforcewheels

Wow, that's a Kickstarter I can get behind! I don't have any bikes that look nice on black wheels, but it's cool to see someone making seemingly nice ones for cheap. Not sure how I feel about the hidden nipples. While the coyness is alluring, I'd like to be able to tweak em more easily.

Silvercivic27 07-29-16 06:54 PM

What's wrong with a good old fashioned set of Velocity Deep V's?

http://i68.tinypic.com/jb476a.jpg

aggarcia 07-29-16 08:45 PM

I was going to recommend the Soul S4.0 at 40mm, but in the current version they are only black. I have a spelt from 2010 and put a ton a miles on them. Love the deep alloy wheels. Never version is wider and lighter than version I have.

rpenmanparker 07-29-16 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Silvercivic27 (Post 18947854)
What's wrong with a good old fashioned set of Velocity Deep V's?

http://i68.tinypic.com/jb476a.jpg

Based on weight, cost, and roundness and flatness right out of the box the Kinlins are likely head and shoulders better. I have built with both Kinlin XR-200s and Velocity Aeroheads. There is no comparison.The Kinlins are far superior.

The Deep Vs weigh over 100g more each than the XR-300s. That is a 1/2 lb difference for the pair. Also the Deep Vs only come in 32 and 36 holes while the Kinlins come in a wide selection of drillings.

tangerineowl 07-29-16 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by aggarcia (Post 18948011)
I was going to recommend the Soul S4.0 at 40mm, but in the current version they are only black. I have a spelt from 2010 and put a ton a miles on them. Love the deep alloy wheels. Never version is wider and lighter than version I have.

I was going to mention the S3.0

32mm tall / 23mm wide at brake track

1530gm

570$ USD inc shipping

new 17mm diameter rear hub axle / hubs design

T Stew 07-30-16 12:03 PM

I was going to mention Velocity Deep V as well, I have a set in bright silver machined sidewall waiting for a build.

However I had never heard of the Kinlin. Might have to look more at those if I do another deep v. Lighter and cheaper, hmm.

They seem to be in completely different spoke count ranges though, with the Kinlin only available in 16, 20, 24 hole and the Velocity in 28, 32, 36, 40. For the silver rims. It seems the Velocity are for heavier build while Kinlin for lightweight.

Which begs the question (from me anyhow), how do you determine appropriate spoke count? If I was going to build up a wheelset for a ~20 lb road bike and 150 lb rider, what would be the minimum spoke count?

rpenmanparker 07-30-16 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by T Stew (Post 18948731)
I was going to mention Velocity Deep V as well, I have a set in bright silver machined sidewall waiting for a build.

However I had never heard of the Kinlin. Might have to look more at those if I do another deep v. Lighter and cheaper, hmm.

They seem to be in completely different spoke count ranges though, with the Kinlin only available in 16, 20, 24 hole and the Velocity in 28, 32, 36, 40. For the silver rims. It seems the Velocity are for heavier build while Kinlin for lightweight.

Which begs the question (from me anyhow), how do you determine appropriate spoke count? If I was going to build up a wheelset for a ~20 lb road bike and 150 lb rider, what would be the minimum spoke count?

Kinlin comes in the full range from 16 to 36...from someone. You may have to look for it.

rpenmanparker 07-30-16 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by T Stew (Post 18948731)
I was going to mention Velocity Deep V as well, I have a set in bright silver machined sidewall waiting for a build.

However I had never heard of the Kinlin. Might have to look more at those if I do another deep v. Lighter and cheaper, hmm.

They seem to be in completely different spoke count ranges though, with the Kinlin only available in 16, 20, 24 hole and the Velocity in 28, 32, 36, 40. For the silver rims. It seems the Velocity are for heavier build while Kinlin for lightweight.

Which begs the question (from me anyhow), how do you determine appropriate spoke count? If I was going to build up a wheelset for a ~20 lb road bike and 150 lb rider, what would be the minimum spoke count?

16/20 or 20/24 would work.


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