Deep(er) Section Alloy Wheels
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Deep(er) Section Alloy Wheels
Hi all,
I'm in the market for some new wheels. I have a white and yellow Masi Gran Criterium and want some shiny silver wheels, preferably with a deepish section. I have a pair of Mavic Cosmic Experts from back in the 9spd days and they look absolutely gorgeous with it, not that they work or could work with the bike, sadly, but something with that vibe would be preferred. I'd also like to go light and also a bit stiff. I really like the looks of the Superstar Pave 28s, but they don't ship to the US and also don't seem to have the silvers in stock right now. I've seen the H Plus Son Archetypes and would prefer something deeper. The 30 - 35mm range is more appealing to me. Any suggestions of models is GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks so much!
I'm in the market for some new wheels. I have a white and yellow Masi Gran Criterium and want some shiny silver wheels, preferably with a deepish section. I have a pair of Mavic Cosmic Experts from back in the 9spd days and they look absolutely gorgeous with it, not that they work or could work with the bike, sadly, but something with that vibe would be preferred. I'd also like to go light and also a bit stiff. I really like the looks of the Superstar Pave 28s, but they don't ship to the US and also don't seem to have the silvers in stock right now. I've seen the H Plus Son Archetypes and would prefer something deeper. The 30 - 35mm range is more appealing to me. Any suggestions of models is GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks so much!
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But if I'm building another set of BHS rims I'd probably copy the old set I had with 24mm (sold it). Can't believe I had a set that was 1250g. It was my climbing/all around wheels. I should've just kept it.
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Why not Kinlin XR-31Ts? Deeper (by 1mm) and wider than the XR-300s. I guess they are more expensive and slightly heavier...
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Rolf Prima Vigor range of wheels. I've used these for several seasons and am always amazed at the quality of the wheel.
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Bike Hub Store Taiwanese hubs. Take your pick from the selection on the Bike Hub Store site. None are too expensive, but there is always one model or more on sale. Reliable, good looking, LIGHT, and CHEAP.
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They're from before 2003.
The more in-depth answer is that they use the FTS system which was used before 10-speed came out and not after. 10-speed and up uses a different body style called FTS-L or FTS-X etc.
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Not silver, but maybe keep an eye on these: aforcewheels
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Are there reading comprehension issues on BF? I went thru most of these links/suggestions and don't see any rims that are silver, except for the Origin 8s in the first response.
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Not silver, but maybe keep an eye on these: aforcewheels
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I was going to recommend the Soul S4.0 at 40mm, but in the current version they are only black. I have a spelt from 2010 and put a ton a miles on them. Love the deep alloy wheels. Never version is wider and lighter than version I have.
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Based on weight, cost, and roundness and flatness right out of the box the Kinlins are likely head and shoulders better. I have built with both Kinlin XR-200s and Velocity Aeroheads. There is no comparison.The Kinlins are far superior.
The Deep Vs weigh over 100g more each than the XR-300s. That is a 1/2 lb difference for the pair. Also the Deep Vs only come in 32 and 36 holes while the Kinlins come in a wide selection of drillings.
The Deep Vs weigh over 100g more each than the XR-300s. That is a 1/2 lb difference for the pair. Also the Deep Vs only come in 32 and 36 holes while the Kinlins come in a wide selection of drillings.
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I was going to mention Velocity Deep V as well, I have a set in bright silver machined sidewall waiting for a build.
However I had never heard of the Kinlin. Might have to look more at those if I do another deep v. Lighter and cheaper, hmm.
They seem to be in completely different spoke count ranges though, with the Kinlin only available in 16, 20, 24 hole and the Velocity in 28, 32, 36, 40. For the silver rims. It seems the Velocity are for heavier build while Kinlin for lightweight.
Which begs the question (from me anyhow), how do you determine appropriate spoke count? If I was going to build up a wheelset for a ~20 lb road bike and 150 lb rider, what would be the minimum spoke count?
However I had never heard of the Kinlin. Might have to look more at those if I do another deep v. Lighter and cheaper, hmm.
They seem to be in completely different spoke count ranges though, with the Kinlin only available in 16, 20, 24 hole and the Velocity in 28, 32, 36, 40. For the silver rims. It seems the Velocity are for heavier build while Kinlin for lightweight.
Which begs the question (from me anyhow), how do you determine appropriate spoke count? If I was going to build up a wheelset for a ~20 lb road bike and 150 lb rider, what would be the minimum spoke count?
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I was going to mention Velocity Deep V as well, I have a set in bright silver machined sidewall waiting for a build.
However I had never heard of the Kinlin. Might have to look more at those if I do another deep v. Lighter and cheaper, hmm.
They seem to be in completely different spoke count ranges though, with the Kinlin only available in 16, 20, 24 hole and the Velocity in 28, 32, 36, 40. For the silver rims. It seems the Velocity are for heavier build while Kinlin for lightweight.
Which begs the question (from me anyhow), how do you determine appropriate spoke count? If I was going to build up a wheelset for a ~20 lb road bike and 150 lb rider, what would be the minimum spoke count?
However I had never heard of the Kinlin. Might have to look more at those if I do another deep v. Lighter and cheaper, hmm.
They seem to be in completely different spoke count ranges though, with the Kinlin only available in 16, 20, 24 hole and the Velocity in 28, 32, 36, 40. For the silver rims. It seems the Velocity are for heavier build while Kinlin for lightweight.
Which begs the question (from me anyhow), how do you determine appropriate spoke count? If I was going to build up a wheelset for a ~20 lb road bike and 150 lb rider, what would be the minimum spoke count?
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I was going to mention Velocity Deep V as well, I have a set in bright silver machined sidewall waiting for a build.
However I had never heard of the Kinlin. Might have to look more at those if I do another deep v. Lighter and cheaper, hmm.
They seem to be in completely different spoke count ranges though, with the Kinlin only available in 16, 20, 24 hole and the Velocity in 28, 32, 36, 40. For the silver rims. It seems the Velocity are for heavier build while Kinlin for lightweight.
Which begs the question (from me anyhow), how do you determine appropriate spoke count? If I was going to build up a wheelset for a ~20 lb road bike and 150 lb rider, what would be the minimum spoke count?
However I had never heard of the Kinlin. Might have to look more at those if I do another deep v. Lighter and cheaper, hmm.
They seem to be in completely different spoke count ranges though, with the Kinlin only available in 16, 20, 24 hole and the Velocity in 28, 32, 36, 40. For the silver rims. It seems the Velocity are for heavier build while Kinlin for lightweight.
Which begs the question (from me anyhow), how do you determine appropriate spoke count? If I was going to build up a wheelset for a ~20 lb road bike and 150 lb rider, what would be the minimum spoke count?



