Hello,

I am looking to build my own (RACING) bike (dedicated to Crit & RR) ground up and planning on starting on buying a good carbon frame what would you guys recommend? No budget!

There is always a budget.

Buy a CAAD12 and call it a day.

I'd recommend getting a budget. If you have no cash, you can't buy much.

If you mean "No spending limits!" then get the lightest, most expensive frame and parts out there.

Trek Emonda in 56 cm is 690 grams, painted. The google "Lightest bicycle wheels" and "Lightest bicycle parts" and buy what you like.

If cash is truly no object, I would think you would end up riding whatever the pros ride ... because for them, cost is no object (the bikes are free.) Also, at that level (where money is not a consideration) I doubt there is much meaningful difference in performance. While here we might agonize of whether a mix or Ultegra and Dura-ace is good enough in performance to match the price of full Dura-Ace ... you would never have to worry. Just buy the best of the best.

In fact, some of the advice you would get here would be counter-productive, because people here are mostly always balancing performance against cost ... because we all have budgets.

Since you have unlimited funds, I would suggest carbon. Seems there are a lot of crashes in Crits, but since you could have a few bikes built up and ready to go, that wouldn't be an issue. Otherwise I might think a CAAD12 frame might be the place to start for a Crit rider. (I see AristoNYC beat me to it. There might be some ultra-exotic little-known manufacturer out there producing some amazing frames ... but again at that level where cash is no object, I would imagine all the top-end frames perform about equally as well. I doubt there is some "inside information" about the Really Good Stuff that almost no one knows about.

So unless you wanted a boutique frame just for the name (which wouldn't fit with your stated goal of racing) you would almost be best off looking at the top-end offerings of the manufacturers supplying WorldTour teams and picking the one you think looks the best.

I am partial to Canyon and Pinarello ... and never have and likely never will ride either ... See, you and I are similar. You have no budget at all .... but I have a tiny one, next to no budget at all.

Just buy used on eBay.

are you a future CAT 5 with deep pockets?

That was easy.

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Or maybe one of these, it's about the same thing without all the BS

https://www.flyxii.com/en/products/flx-fr-311.html

Storck...for that price it SHOULD be made of platinum!

No Budget?

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There are lots of choices out there. Perhaps start by browsing. Trying out a few. Check out your friend's rides.

Maybe a better starting point would be if you would tell us what you ride now and what kind of racing you do now.

You original post was so wide open, the only reasonable answer would be, "Buy a bike."

What he said.

Pinarello Dogma F8, Argon 18 Nitrogen Pro, Parlee Atrium R, Canyon Aeroad, Cervelo S5.

Better get one of each, just in case.

The OP does list:In the profile.

So, perhaps the question should be what is wrong with the Scott.

No budget!!!

Thank you all for your input! i am looking into all of the recommendations.

Trek Emonda -
Émonda SL Frameset | Trek Bikes

It kinda depends on what exactly you want - the Emonda is a very fast, responsive, vibration eliminating bike with both extremely reliable and stable handling while still being fast responding (apparently it's exactly the same geometry as lance won the tour de france with, but with updated carbon).

It's drawbacks are that you get some road feel - it was better than the Domane - but Specialized bikes often have more road feel. It can feel a bit "floaty". It's stability makes riding a little less exciting to.

That's my opinion at least, having test ridden one. It's in my top 5 if I had limitless money.

No budget... go for a SLR.

Émonda SLR Frameset (H1 fit) | Trek Bikes

It's what Fabian rides.

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I get where you're coming from, but well there's 2 things about that...
1. Unlimited budget doesn't mean unlimited flexibility with the H1 fit.
2. Why would they make it powder blue? Ugh...I'd rather get the cheaper frame in black lol.

They make it in a H2 and in black.

Look 795. Nothing better in 2016.

Bikes all have a different feel to them. I'd get on top of some candidates, hammer them and see how they react to you and the road. That's really the only difference. The tech specs aren't really that interesting. You want a bike that feels like it moves for you.

That said, the SLR would probably suit me just fine.

Madone.

Are those the Jagwire Link cables? I went with the Alligator, but I'd probably get the Jagwire if I had to do it over again.