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Originally Posted by Tubernator
(Post 19705952)
I was also choosing between the Roubaix and Diverge, but since 90% of my riding is on pavement, I chose the Roubaix. There is a pretty strong chance I will have a Diverge in the next few months as well ;), set up with 47's on 650b
Lets hope the 17 Roubaix Comp model is still in stock, I'm inclining for the orange one. |
Originally Posted by TakingMyTime
(Post 19705820)
I'm really starting to obsess over the Gloss AC Blue Roubaix Comp. I told myself that I was going to wait at least another year before buying another bike but that color is just screaming at me. All the shops within 100 miles of me have the other colors but the blue seems to be in short supply. I was hoping to go take a look at one in person to see how it spoke to me.
Since the spring tension might be an issue, are most LBS offering to make the change for free as part of the fitting process. I'm thinking about 3 weeks later and deciding I'd like a softer/harder spring? If I'm not mistaken, you'll get all 3 springs with the stiffest installed by default |
A couple of weeks ago I borrowed the LBS owner's Expert, put a couple hundred miles on it and really liked the ride.
My 67th birthday is tomorrow. :eek: I think my wife of 44 years made a trip to our LBS yesterday because she was mentioning that YELLOW would make me more visible on my rides. Friday night I left at 6:07PM and had to return at 4:10AM due to lightning otherwise I would have been out until daybreak. Was hoping for 225 miles but only made 191 miles after going back out on the LBS ride. Last Saturday I went out at 12:10AM and got in 202 miles. YELLOW is not a bad color at all. :D To be continue.......:love: |
My Elite should show up tomorrow and be ready tues or weds.
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Originally Posted by Tubernator
(Post 19705502)
Their system was showing the 2018 Pro, which now has a mechanical "mostly" Dura-Ace setup at the same price point. Also now in a yellow color or black, not the awesome chameleon blue from last year.
I'm confused about losing Di2 for Dura-Ace, but I've rarely understood Specialized's groupset decisions.
Originally Posted by Tubernator
(Post 19705502)
New S-Works is already shipping.
A mid-year S-Works color change is therefore quite possible.
Originally Posted by Tubernator
(Post 19705502)
I wound up getting the 2017 comp in blue (which I love, but was tempted to get the orange), and they are building it up for me with 6870 full DI2 (except I am keeping the Praxis crank) and CLX32 wheels. Should be ready next week, and will post up the pics.
Really looking forward to the bike, only bummer from the Pro is the lack of 11r frame, but the 10r is still plenty stiff. The stiffness of the 10r vs. the 11r, as I was told by Specialized, is essentially identical. The 11r's advantage is weight, and it's less than a pound. I doubt you'll notice it. I really like this bike. |
Originally Posted by Masque
(Post 19707121)
I've found the 2018 pro online; looks like what you saw as black is a very dark (and very sparkly) blue: https://www.sigmasport.co.uk/item/Sp...Bike-2018/G1A7
I'm confused about losing Di2 for Dura-Ace, but I've rarely understood Specialized's groupset decisions. Yes, because the SRAM Red eTap systems took so long to actually show up that they shipped near-zero 2017 S-Works; from what I've gathered, the immediate 2018 availability of the S-Works model and its identical-to-2017-colorway are due to these being bikes that were just waiting for groupsets. A mid-year S-Works color change is therefore quite possible. You took the same path I did, though I didn't think to keep the Praxis crank and I ordered ENVE 4.5AR rims (this nearly 4 months ago; was told to expect a 6 week wait; I may build some chinabomb wheels up instead at this point.) The stiffness of the 10r vs. the 11r, as I was told by Specialized, is essentially identical. The 11r's advantage is weight, and it's less than a pound. I doubt you'll notice it. I really like this bike. |
I'm surprised that for 2018, that all the fork except S-Works model is now listed as Fact and no longer Fact 11r?
I don't think it's a rename as they have no reason to remove the carbon grade unless the new 18 forks uses a mixture of carbon grade (9r-11r). And for 18 models, looks like the Comp model will be more expensive (understandably as it now comes with Ultegra Hydros and I guess the Roval SLX24 is a more expensive wheel?) and looks like a 160mm rear rotor |
Okay, so I talked to my Spesh dealer and sadly in Malaysia, they only have Roubaix Comp - Gloss Blue or the Satin Charcoal Orange (out of stock). Apparently, the Gloss Orange is not sold here. Bummer.
Anyway, they're willing to swap the tyres with other Spesh tyres as long as it's of similar price. So what tyres would you guys recommend? Roubaix Pro? All Conditions Armadillo? My terrain will be mostly hilly roads with some poor and cracked surfaced cemented road mixed with gravel. And I'll probably go for Shimano XT MTB pedals instead of road pedals as I can't stand walking like a duck. Also, I'm ~180cm+ and he's suggesting a frame of size 52/54 or in other words, 1 size smaller than an Allez DSW Sprint as to compensate the 20mm + hover bar height (something to do with headtube length) and is guessing an 110mm stem length. |
Originally Posted by OldTryGuy
(Post 19706091)
A couple of weeks ago I borrowed the LBS owner's Expert, put a couple hundred miles on it and really liked the ride.
My 67th birthday is tomorrow. :eek: I think my wife of 44 years made a trip to our LBS yesterday because she was mentioning that YELLOW would make me more visible on my rides. Friday night I left at 6:07PM and had to return at 4:10AM due to lightning otherwise I would have been out until daybreak. Was hoping for 225 miles but only made 191 miles after going back out on the LBS ride. Last Saturday I went out at 12:10AM and got in 202 miles. YELLOW is not a bad color at all. :D To be continue.......:love: |
It's true that the head tube on the Sprint is MUCH shorter — it's a criterium bike, and the Roubaix is not. But to change the size of the frame to accommodate the height of the bars is silly.
Sounds like your dealer has an interest in selling you a smaller frame. Most shops would consider it easier to swap out the $50 bars rather than the $X,000 frame, no? |
I spoke to two Specialized stores and they told me that they couldn't order an orange 2017 COMP in 56cm :-(. I asked them about 2018 Elite and they confirmed they will come with hydraulic brakes and that they would list for $2800 but would not be available until October. Not sure about the mint green color either. Maybe it will grow on me?
Oh and the Comp will list for $3400 |
Originally Posted by Masque
(Post 19709213)
It's true that the head tube on the Sprint is MUCH shorter — it's a criterium bike, and the Roubaix is not. But to change the size of the frame to accommodate the height of the bars is silly.
Sounds like your dealer has an interest in selling you a smaller frame. Most shops would consider it easier to swap out the $50 bars rather than the $X,000 frame, no? Okay, I'm pretty sure the size in question is either a 54 or 56 I'm guessing he suggested 54 cause the future shock adds 20mm default height and he plans to compensate by the saddle position and stem length? Though if I were to check online size guide (general and 17 Roubaix), seems to point to size 56 My height is 180cm, what other measurement would I need? And anyone else around the same height as me? What's your 17 Roubaix size? [MENTION=464758]3LionsCT[/MENTION], what's your height? And yeah, the 18 model will be more expensive (admittedly comes with better components) as they'll now have an entry Sport model (9r instead of 10r) |
Wheelhot
To answer your question . I am also 180cm which is why I was leaning towards a 56cm or possibly 58cm. The 2018 Elite is the same bike as the 2017 Comp minus the Ultegra. Its $600 cheaper but is it me, or does that green look a bit feminine? |
Hmm, the 2018 Elite is more expensive than the 2017 Elite but yeah, it's cheaper than the 2017 Comp, though looking at the price listed at SigmaSport, essentially 2018 Elite is almost the same price as the 2017 Comp (at least when converted to Malaysia Ringgit).
The only difference would be: 2017 Comp is a mix of Ultegra FD, RD and 105 Cassette whereas 2018 Elite is mostly 105 Components, even the Cranks are Shimano though it's a non-series model (seriously Spesh?) 2018 Elite has a simpler paint job than the 2017 Comp Not sure how big of a difference this will be but 2018 Elite comes with Fact Carbon Fork whereas the 2017 Comp (and Elite as well) comes with Fact 11r Carbon Fork. 2018 Elite is in Black and Red, where did you see Green? https://www.sigmasport.co.uk/item/Sp...Bike-2018/G1G7 As for sizing, alright, so 56cm seems more likely. I asked my dealer why he recommended 54 initially, and he said it's because even though I'm 180, I have a longer upper body. |
I thing that's backwards..... long upper body needs longer top tube, longer reach, larger frame.
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Originally Posted by trailangel
(Post 19710996)
I thing that's backwards..... long upper body needs longer top tube, longer reach, larger frame.
Nonetheless, I told him I want to try the 56cm as well, so if he refuses then it's a no buy (unlikely to happen). Also I heard online that it mentions that the correct bike size means during fitting, the stem for example will only need to change by +-10mm? Any more or less means your bike size is off (ignore pros cause they like their long stems) |
2018 Elite is in Black and Red, where did you see Green?
Wheelhot: The green is on the Australian web site I referenced previously. I am in the US and I spoke to a LBS and they said the two color options here are all black or mint green which seems to match the AU web site. Perhaps the UK has a different color option? I still cant post a web link :-( |
Originally Posted by wheelhot
(Post 19711031)
Also I heard online that it mentions that the correct bike size means during fitting, the stem for example will only need to change by +-10mm? Any more or less means your bike size is off (ignore pros cause they like their long stems)
The first rule of bike fitting is this: There are no universal rules. Everyone is different. I ride a 2017 Roubaix, size 56 with a 110mm stem. The guy who sold me the bike rides a 56 Diverge with a 120mm stem... and he's four inches shorter than I am! Does your current bike fit you perfectly? If so, take it in with you! A great place to start is with the same reach/stack/seat height as your current bike, and adjust from there. Any decent LBS will swap out stems, saddles, bars in order to get the fit you need. Remember that this bike is more like the Tarmac in geometry than the prior generations were. Your fit should adjust accordingly. But don't buy anything until you're 100% certain of the frame size. Everything else is easy to change. |
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Originally Posted by Masque
(Post 19711546)
Some pros run 110mm stems. Some run 160mm. Bodies are different.
The first rule of bike fitting is this: There are no universal rules. Everyone is different. I ride a 2017 Roubaix, size 56 with a 110mm stem. The guy who sold me the bike rides a 56 Diverge with a 120mm stem... and he's four inches shorter than I am! Does your current bike fit you perfectly? If so, take it in with you! A great place to start is with the same reach/stack/seat height as your current bike, and adjust from there. Any decent LBS will swap out stems, saddles, bars in order to get the fit you need. Remember that this bike is more like the Tarmac in geometry than the prior generations were. Your fit should adjust accordingly. But don't buy anything until you're 100% certain of the frame size. Everything else is easy to change. Hmm, problem is, this will be my first road bike, my previous bike is a Giant Anthem so I'm not sure if MTB Stack and Reach is compatible with Road. And yeah, the LBS will do the fitting but from what I read and watch online, bike fit and bike size are 2 different things and if you get the wrong size, no fit will be able to compensate that. You mention about 100% certain of the frame size, what are the things/characteristics to look out for to be certain that this is the correct frame size? Also, I guess you're 180cm as well? [MENTION=463492]OUGrad05[/MENTION], congrats on your new ride :thumb: |
Originally Posted by wheelhot
(Post 19712248)
Wow, I wonder what's his body proportions that allowed him to ride that Diverge.
Hmm, problem is, this will be my first road bike, my previous bike is a Giant Anthem so I'm not sure if MTB Stack and Reach is compatible with Road. And yeah, the LBS will do the fitting but from what I read and watch online, bike fit and bike size are 2 different things and if you get the wrong size, no fit will be able to compensate that. You mention about 100% certain of the frame size, what are the things/characteristics to look out for to be certain that this is the correct frame size? Also, I guess you're 180cm as well? If you get the "wrong" size, you can compensate a little. I nearly got the 58, and I would have been able to work with that using a 90mm stem, but it would never have been able to be low enough. I took delivery of the 56 with 30mm of spacers, and have removed them all. I'm about to swap out the bars to remove the rise inherent to the Hover bars, though, and wish I could go lower. If I had the 58, I would be very stuck with a too-upright position. I'm 185.5cm. |
Hmm, since you're 185.5cm and a 58 gives you too-upright position, wouldn't a 56 be more upright? since the TT length is shorter?
Even lower? Wow, from the sound of it, you race a lot? I'm not sure if they do offer a thorough bike fit, but considering he does have over 10 years selling bike experience (started from selling generic bikes > merida > spesh), I guess he'll know by now if it's a good fit or not. Nonetheless, we shall see this Saturday if he's right (54) or not (56). |
Originally Posted by Masque
(Post 19712563)
There's a difference between a quick eyeballing of your riding and a thorough bike fit. It's absolutely worth it to pay for a full fitting and spend the 90-180 minutes required for it. If they're offering you the former, it'll get you close, but it won't guarantee satisfaction.
If you get the "wrong" size, you can compensate a little. I nearly got the 58, and I would have been able to work with that using a 90mm stem, but it would never have been able to be low enough. I took delivery of the 56 with 30mm of spacers, and have removed them all. I'm about to swap out the bars to remove the rise inherent to the Hover bars, though, and wish I could go lower. If I had the 58, I would be very stuck with a too-upright position. I'm 185.5cm. |
Lets hope the 17 Roubaix Comp model is still in stock, I'm inclining for the orange one.[/QUOTE]
Good luck with getting an Orange one. They are no longer in stock here in the US. Just what is left at the LBS. I was at my LBS last night and they confirmed that the 2018 Elite will come in black or mint green. Cost $2800. He had no ETA but I had another store tell me October! WTF |
Originally Posted by 3LionsCT
(Post 19713446)
Good luck with getting an Orange one. They are no longer in stock here in the US. Just what is left at the LBS. I was at my LBS last night and they confirmed that the 2018 Elite will come in black or mint green. Cost $2800. He had no ETA but I had another store tell me October! WTF |
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