Water or electrolyte tablet?
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Water for rides under 100km...I add Nuun tablets to the odd bottle if I'm going over the 100km mark...I used to get headaches on pure water for the long rides. Nuun seems to work like a charm (1 tablet/20oz).
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Whats the deal with the tablets? Whats wrong with a pinch of salt and sugar in water?
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I like Ultima. No calories, plenty of electrolytes and vitamins and whatnot. Nice taste if you're cool with Stevia.
Plus I can get it in a color that matches my bike. VERY IMPORTANT, as you know.
Plus I can get it in a color that matches my bike. VERY IMPORTANT, as you know.
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I know this is not a racing thread - but it applies.
We now just use water, then packet GU/food for electrolyte.
On a hot day the option to squirt water on head/back is nice. We remember the chocolate milk mistake.
The ideal concentration of a mix/water varies with temperature. Having a pack and washing it down lets the ratio be controlled on the bike.
You can share in picking up bottles for others. If they are all water, anyone can take any and use their sauce and wash it down.
We now just use water, then packet GU/food for electrolyte.
On a hot day the option to squirt water on head/back is nice. We remember the chocolate milk mistake.
The ideal concentration of a mix/water varies with temperature. Having a pack and washing it down lets the ratio be controlled on the bike.
You can share in picking up bottles for others. If they are all water, anyone can take any and use their sauce and wash it down.
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Water and real food, ie. potato chips, dried apricots, fresh bananas, etc. do the job for me. No need to pay high prices for stuff I can find in a kitchen cabinet. For long rides in the heat, I'll sometimes add potassium capsules, on the off chance that I'm not replenishing that fast enough. Not sure it makes a difference, but it doesn't seem to hurt anything.
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+1,
Water and real food, ie. potato chips, dried apricots, fresh bananas, etc. do the job for me. No need to pay high prices for stuff I can find in a kitchen cabinet. For long rides in the heat, I'll sometimes add potassium capsules, on the off chance that I'm not replenishing that fast enough. Not sure it makes a difference, but it doesn't seem to hurt anything.
Water and real food, ie. potato chips, dried apricots, fresh bananas, etc. do the job for me. No need to pay high prices for stuff I can find in a kitchen cabinet. For long rides in the heat, I'll sometimes add potassium capsules, on the off chance that I'm not replenishing that fast enough. Not sure it makes a difference, but it doesn't seem to hurt anything.
And a peanut butter and jelly sandwich...
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I've been using Gookinaid aka ERG aka Hydrolylte aka Vitalyte (its current name) for 40 years. The stuff is simply good. The electrolyte balance and sugar both amount and type are right to optimize water take up, electrolyte take up and not make you sick. (The only times I've thrown it up is when I have the flu or a stomach bug. What does stay down helps a lot and what comes up tastes good.)
The stuff is cheap (~$18 for 40 WBs). I find it better than water to drink when I am riding and after. (I didn't use it for ~10 years when I couldn't find it. Started back up when REI started carrying it 15 years ago and my riding life was instantly better.
All Vitalyte does is hydrate and facilitate absorption. It does not contain significant amounts of carbohydrates, any protein, make promises or perform miracles. I love the stuff.
Edit: Vitalyte is an excellent source for potassium. Sodium is there but not in huge amounts. I make it a point not to eat a lot of salt and the sodium levels in Vitalyte work just fine for me. If you have very salty sweat, you may need to supplement the sodium.
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The stuff is cheap (~$18 for 40 WBs). I find it better than water to drink when I am riding and after. (I didn't use it for ~10 years when I couldn't find it. Started back up when REI started carrying it 15 years ago and my riding life was instantly better.
All Vitalyte does is hydrate and facilitate absorption. It does not contain significant amounts of carbohydrates, any protein, make promises or perform miracles. I love the stuff.
Edit: Vitalyte is an excellent source for potassium. Sodium is there but not in huge amounts. I make it a point not to eat a lot of salt and the sodium levels in Vitalyte work just fine for me. If you have very salty sweat, you may need to supplement the sodium.
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Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
So, other than actually finding plain water to be more thirst quenching than flavored water, I still have reasons to keep the water and electrolytes separate until consumed.
But, I don't claim that my approach is somehow better or smarter, just that it's my preference, and invite anyone to do whatever works for them EXCEPT, that if you come upon me cut and bleeding in the road, please don't wash my injuries with your adulterated water.
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It doesn't matter whether you use pills or solution, but water alone is a VERY bad idea. Even on short (<2hr) rides if you sweat a lot you need electrolytes.
The loss of electrolytes through sweating will cause muscle fatigue (often misinterpreted as low energy) and possibly cramping.
You also need to think about electrolyte replacement after a long hot ride.
The loss of electrolytes through sweating will cause muscle fatigue (often misinterpreted as low energy) and possibly cramping.
You also need to think about electrolyte replacement after a long hot ride.
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One good source of electrolytes is potato chips.
We will often pick up a small bag of them along the way.
An excellent source of electrolytes is salted almonds ... on really long rides, I'll have a small baggie of them on board.
Beef jerky washed down with orange juice is another decent source.
We will often pick up a small bag of them along the way.An excellent source of electrolytes is salted almonds ... on really long rides, I'll have a small baggie of them on board.
Beef jerky washed down with orange juice is another decent source.
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It doesn't matter whether you use pills or solution, but water alone is a VERY bad idea. Even on short (<2hr) rides if you sweat a lot you need electrolytes.
The loss of electrolytes through sweating will cause muscle fatigue (often misinterpreted as low energy) and possibly cramping.
You also need to think about electrolyte replacement after a long hot ride.
The loss of electrolytes through sweating will cause muscle fatigue (often misinterpreted as low energy) and possibly cramping.
You also need to think about electrolyte replacement after a long hot ride.
I wish it were possible to stave off muscle fatigue with a pill!
Our bodies are quite efficient at regulating sodium in the blood. Hyponatremia is a rare condition requiring drinking copious amounts of water while exercising.
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It doesn't matter whether you use pills or solution, but water alone is a VERY bad idea. Even on short (<2hr) rides if you sweat a lot you need electrolytes.
The loss of electrolytes through sweating will cause muscle fatigue (often misinterpreted as low energy) and possibly cramping.
You also need to think about electrolyte replacement after a long hot ride.
The loss of electrolytes through sweating will cause muscle fatigue (often misinterpreted as low energy) and possibly cramping.
You also need to think about electrolyte replacement after a long hot ride.
Went on a 85mi round trip ride to Three Floyds brewery when it was around 90 degrees F and full sun. I was really hurting the last 15 miles coming back through the city. Still felt fairly strong riding...but was woozy and getting a pretty bad headache. I thought I might have been severely dehydrated...but I had been drinking a lot of water, and actually weighed myself and had only lost maybe half a pound from the morning. Spent about 2 hrs of moping around the house feeling weak, woozy, before I realized I might have hyponatremia. Had a bunch of salty peanuts and pretzels, and felt better about 30 minutes later.
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On long rides, or away from services, I bring a 2 oz filter so I can drink from creeks, too.




