I wonder when will it come....

Wanted to get a 1000 but have waited for the new one... for more than a year now....

Any estimation?

Do they usually launch new products during a show? (e.g. CES)

People were expecting it at CES this year...and nada. I'm rather wondering if there will be a replacement....E1K was pretty much an answer to a question nobody asked. Especially given the underwhelming battery life.

Still using mine, though. But TBH if I didn't need on-device navigation that wasn't dependent on cell-towers, I'd have gone to a Wahoo by now.

The Edge 1000 has poor battery life? Mine has 30% charge after a fairly slow century. What GPS has better battery life?

If you do *long* rides - like 12 or 24 hour races or double centuries - then the Garmin is woefully inadequate.

I sometimes have to use my brick of a Garmin eTrex for those rides as it uses AA batteries. It's big and heavy and unwieldy, but I can slap in a pair of AAs and keep recording my ride, and keep it navigating.

The Edge is not good at being charged by an external charger while it's being used, but I understand the Wahoo does that quite well. (Can anyone confirm?)

Shoot, I've never gotten more than 6-7 hours out of my Edge1000 on its own. It takes being charged/used simultaneously fine,but you need a left-handed mount, which fortunately these days is made by BarFly. I'm doing a 150miler in August, and my only hope for the Edge lasting is that the weather isn't too bad and I can safely use my USB lipstick charger.

Garmin for their part is still putting out the odd firmware revision for the E1K....which for a 3 year old unit is a bit unusual.

Maybe Garmin is being tight-lipped, and really polishing the E1K-replacement up so as to not repeat the public-beta experience...OTOH most people stuck between choosing run-time and gigantic size will pick run-time. And with mainline high-end smartphones getting water resistance like the iPhone, if people want a gigantic screen they can get it without even buying a Garmin now just using BTLE sensors.

I've had zero issues plugging in an external battery to charge my 810, while recording, on several DK200's. My wife has done the same with her 1000 as well.

You've been luckier than me.

I bought a specially made Garmin charger (with non-standard USB wiring that is specific to Garmin, made by Gomadic) - and it did not work. I tried using standard USB cables - again, didn't work.

Perhaps my Garmin is an older model (2014).

non-standard wiring?? I've always used standard USB->mini-USB cables and they have always worked perfect. I've never tried an external battery but the wiring shouldn't be any different. sounds like another issue I'd be lookin at

I believe mine is made by Duracell and is a little larger than my thumb (for reference). I plug it in using the standard Garmin charging cord.

My 810 is a 2014. The 1000 was purchased just this spring (2016 or 2017 possibly).

if you stop to replace the batteries doesn't that kill the route? so you need to reprogram?

I have the 1000 explore and love it, but I can't say the same for Garmin connect. It was so lame I basically stopped looking at it and use Trainingpeaks instead. Come to think of it, I haven't plugged the garmin into a computer in over a year, but it has been through some updates via wireless.


I wouldn't expect an upgrade for another year...the 1000 is pretty feature packed.

I'll proactively mention the Edge 820 here.

15 hour advertised battery life is only possible in Battery Save mode where the screen is turned off. It can be configured to wake the screen on certain events such as heart rate threshold, route prompts, etc. Touching the screen will also wake it. Those like myself who like to monitor effort when pushing hard or climbing however, cannot do so without constantly touching the screen to wake it and the device might as well be in my jersey pocket or saddle bag.

I didn't buy a $400 GPS to ride around with the screen off and the battery lasts only 4.5 hours when the screen is turned on. I paid full retail at REI for the ability to return it and am thinking about doing so.


-Tim-

Garmin's Fenix 5 watches get up to 24 hours of GPS time, on one-second recording.

They do turn-by-turn directions (one has maps and can generate routes on the fly), talk to power meters, Di2, radar, etc. Great for hiking, trail running, swimming, cross country skiing, etc.

My Edge is gone, I don't feel much need to replace it.

Not sure why you are keeping the model of your Edge such a secret.

The ancient 800 charges just fine with general cables and general chargers.

I believe that early firmware on the 800 prevented the charging.

Man, I was just looking at the Fenix 5 for my wife...she was talking about the apple watch but I think something like the Fenix might work better for her.


honestly, if I were to do it again I would get something like the Fenix provided the GPS accuracy was alright when mountain biking under tree cover. The edge 1000 seems good for that, the 500 wasn't that great.

Really? I used my Garmin Edge 1000 with an external battery for the 2015 Dirty Kanza 200 -- 18+ hours worth -- and it worked great. Still had charge left to spare.

Yea external batteries are great...but who wants to have to need one?

I still have the Edge 705 I bought new in May 2008.
My longest ride using it was ~14hrs, and it was still running when I finished.
Just last year I had to replace the original battery.

I waited a long time for the Edge 1000 replacement. I gave up and went with an 820 and I'm glad I did. It has all the features of the 1000 (and then some) and it offers a much smaller footprint. Plus, the charge port is even more accessible for my auxiliary battery.

Stay with short routes and you never will.

Complaining about a lipstick-sized auxiliary battery on a 24-hour ride/race is like complaining about having to wear black shorts. It's a non-event. Set it and forget it and never have to worry about battery life again.

Which seems to be Garmin's attitude...

Which is a problem given you're talking the flagship most-expensive cycling GPS....the people needing a full-featured on-board routing GPS (without needing cell towers) are not those people.

lol, this

It seems like the whole 12 hour-24 hour battery life thing is such a niche that someone riding those regularly would either go another route (is there another route that will do 24 hour battery life?) or figure out an external battery solution.


I can say I've never run into battery life issues with the garmin but my longest ride using it has been 7.5 hours long. I do not want to ride that long, or any longer anymore.

Many people complain that the 1000 is too big. You want it to be bigger?

Maybe, having enough power to do a century in 8h is a reasonable target.

My 520 has no problems operating while charging, and will get right around 7 hours with the navigation running. With nav off, I can get ~12 hours with the typical 15-second backlight timeout. I carry one of those Anker 3300mah USB power sticks for rides I know are going to be especially long. I mean, the 520's battery is only something like 600mah, so I think it does remarkably well for a battery that size. with the Anker, I imagine 36+ hours with nav on wouldn't be an issue. The 1000 has a 1200mah battery, but also a significantly bigger screen-- and the two big battery killers are navigation and screen.

If you want absurd battery life, get something without nav or a color screen. I used a Bryton 310 for awhile, and after 24 hours of rides (a week and a half), the battery would be around 40%. I charged it twice a month.