recommend me a saddle bag that
 

can hold 2 700x25 tubes...with maybe a lil extra room for some flat stuff..must attack to seat extremely well please!!...i really like the arundel dual but lost the second one today and I've learned my leason

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How do you lose an arundel dual? Which would have been my recommendation. Did you have an old model that didn't have the sewn on loop on the bottom that the velcro strap feeds thru?

Middle. Jersey. Pocket. Ziplock. Bag.

^this.

I've ridden thousands of miles with mine. Never came off. My bet is that it was improperly mounted to the bike seat.

J.

I use a "Topeak Aero Wedge (Buckle)" in medium when using a saddle bag. Otherwise, I use zip bags in my back pockets. I would think the small can take 2 tubes if you only need a `lil extra room'.

Quite happy with the Topeak, not least because it is not fastened with velcro! It also seems durable and is inexpensive.

I tend to overpack so I don't need to make the call of shame. So I like the Serfas Speed Bags. I swap one in medium size with the expanding pouch between my hybrid and road bike. After using one for several weeks I may get a larger bag for the hybrid and dedicate the Serfas to the road bike.

The Speed Bag isn't the most streamlined looking but I doubt the aero characteristics matter under the saddle and behind our bodies.

What I like about the medium LT-2 Speed Bag:

• Holds its shape with plastic inserts in top and bottom and fairly stiff lid, unlike some floppier saddle bags (notably the Jandd mountain bag, which I may get for the hybrid).
• Organization niches: inside pouches, elastic retainer strap and snap strap for keys, ID, those Lezyne glueless patch kits in little envelopes, etc. Much easier to find stuff at night.
• Reflective trim.
• Double zipper -- helps when closing lid over bulky stuff like my Topeak RaceRocket HP, which fits but barely.
• Three attachment points: two Velcro straps on the saddle rails, one on the seat post. Very secure, even when heavily loaded.
• Loop for taillight. For a few weeks I just clipped my Cygolite Hotshot to the loop. Now I use the Cygolite mount on the seat tube just between the seat stays and under the saddle bag.
• Expandable via zippered floor.
• There are a couple more accessory loops I haven't found a use for. In a pinch they could be used for additional straps to secure the bag to the saddle.

What I'm meh about, although I don't dislike anything about the Speed Bag:

• The two Velcro straps that go over the saddle rails must be threaded from the inside-out, then tucked up under the saddle. Even with my long, thin fingers it's awkward. But once it's done it holds. If I didn't switch the bag between two bikes it wouldn't be an issue.
• It's difficult to snug up enough to eliminate any swaying. So it won't suit folks who want to maximize every possible efficiency. They'd prefer a rigid, fixed clamshell container like the Aeroclam or Lezyne Pod.

On my road bike for relatively faster, shorter rides, I'll zip the expandable pouch shut, and just carry:

• Spare tube
• Lezyne glueless patches in a small, flat plastic envelope in the lid pouch
• Multi-tool, levers and blue paper shop towel in a ziplock bag
• Minimal first aid kit tucked into inner side pouch with a few ibuprofen, antihistamine, asthma pills (ephedrine, expectorant and cough suppressant -- true rescue inhalers no longer exist and some asthmatics still respond only to ephedrine as a bronchodilator), wet wipes with sunscreen and bug repellent; glucose tabs and NUUN tablets or DripDrop sealed pouches of powdered electrolyte supplements.
• Small wallet
• Keys clipped to the keyholder strap inside the lid.

On the hybrid for longer casual rides I'll open up the expandable pouch and add:

• USB battery and cords for recharging my doodads
• The larger tube for my 700x42 tires
• Kind bar
• Extra first aid stuff including bandaids, small clotting pads, tape, etc.

I'll probably get a larger saddle bag for the hybrid to hold a larger first aid kit, more tools, etc.

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A bit of O.T digression...
The small clotting pad in a first aid kit may not seem like a big deal but I've found some otherwise calm folks who don't complain about pain from crash injuries freak out over bleeding that won't stop easily. The clotting pad is mostly a placebo that helps minimize emotional shock. When people don't see their own blood they tend to be calmer. A notably example is boxer Manny Pacquiao, a genuinely tough guy who rebounds well from being stunned and even knocked out, but has a phobia about his own blood. A small clotting pad takes up little room and can be handy for leaky cuts -- especially on the face -- nose bleeds, etc.

I have a few of these bags and some of the velcro straps seem like they weren't sewn on correctly so that when u closed the loop it wasnt grabbing a lot of surface area with velcro....Its my own fault ...i knew it was looking sketchy but I also have used these for thousands of miles, would even leave it on all the time when transporting the bike on the car rack and they never fell off. The other one I "lost" might have been stolen...but this time i know for certain i had it on and even saw it when i stopped one time :mad:

I just wrap the inner tube with 2 thick (cross) velcro straps around the saddle rail, and it works great

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HtimXVL2Sp...0919151332.jpg

I don't really like the shape of this one, but it does hold a good amount of stuff without being too big, and the attachment is OK.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DLNQKlz0Rm...0919151334.jpg

Two tubes, two carts, inflator, levers, multitool, and patches.

That Topeak Aero Wedge with buckles looks easier to snug up into the saddle and easier to attach/detach, compared with my Serfas Speed Bag. Design appears similar, otherwise. I may check out the Topeak next visit to the LBS.

For me, it sits much better if I take the seatpost strap and tie it around the seat rails, basically.

That's really odd. I use the dual on my fatbike because of the huge fatbike tube. It really gets banged around but I have no issues.

The reason I asked about the mounting is that so often I see (maybe 30% of the time), seat packs mounted incorrectly. People run the strap over both seat rails instead of running one side of the strap over one seat rail with the point where it's stitched to the bag directly between the rails.

If the velcro is insufficient, you can always add an element of "old school" and secure it with a toe clip strap. That will *never* let go. In point of fact, if you are losing that many packs maybe that would be a good idea anyhow.



J.

I have been very pleased with my Silca Roll Premio:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/03...g?v=1492093242

You should get a Carradice Camper saddlebag. It can hold 119 inner tubes.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1500676349

That Silca is an interesting design, if it snugs up tightly enough to minimize swaying. The tricky bit with most saddle bags I've tried at LBSs was snugging or cinching them up to minimizing swaying. Not a big deal with hybrids but probably of more concern when riding lighter road bikes.

Reminds me, I had a small Eclipse roll up minimal tire/tool bag back in the 1970s. Worked well. Just enough for a patch kit, levers, multi-tool. I don't think it was big enough for a spare tube.

When the first folding tires were available -- only intended for emergency use at the time -- I'd tuck it under the saddle naked, using a bungee cord to hold it. Just for longer rides away from civilization. Don't think I ever needed it though.

The Scicon Compact 430 will do it and is a great bag, both for its easy access and loading clamshell design and convenient Roller Mount. It also has integrated tire lever mounts, so if you're packing those out now, you can ditch 'em.

I used to use one, and still have one of the smaller Elan roller mount bags in use now, and have a very good assessment of the bags. Good stuff.

http://eddsbikes.net/wp-content/uplo...saddlebag3.jpg

that looks pretty nice!

looks like a nice piece im gonna look into it thx

I just remembered...I still have the Compact 430 in use! I forgot it's on the Dahon folder!

The boa closure system is pretty impressive, and allows you to tighten it plenty. I have experienced zero swaying issues. I also like that, since it's a roll, it's somewhat expandable based on how much -- or little -- you put in it.

If you don't like the attachment, look at this version; https://www.topeak.com/global/en/pro...ero-wedge-pack
I use the mounting bracket on the seat rails on two bikes and on one other I use a Prologo saddle that has a clip incorporated into the back of the saddle.

Still a big fan of the Arundel Dual-- I just combine mine with a WolfTooth B-Rad and get it out from under the saddle. Guaranteed to never fall off. No full jersey pockets, and it's just nice not to have a pound of stuff strapped to the bottom of the saddle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...pscjfue2kq.jpg

Maybe I'm not seeing how this works.. but it doesn't look like there's any easy way to remove and put back anything into it? ie. vs. unzip, grab item, put item back and zip up again?

Super easy. Just pull on the boa wheel (just like you would on a shoe) to release tension, then the strap simply unsnaps and the entire seat roll can be removed from the saddle. I really like it because it's very easy to swap between my bikes, doesn't rub on the seat post, and gives you a work space to lay out your tools/patches/etc.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/03...g?v=1492093242