Marinoni :thumb:

Trek will sell the newer Emonda ALR as a frameset: https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b.../1426100-2017/

Looks snazzy but probably a bit steep for almost $1000. I've seen Cannondale CAAD 10 framesets go for around $600 or so used. I'd prolly take that route if I had to replace my frameset. Chinese open mould like the Workswell WB-R-066 look interesting. But I'm not a fan of the BBRight BB that it has. Would select something else with a good old BSA BB on it.

BBRight is working well for me. No problems when the bearings are installed with appropriate Loctite. Small spacer evens out the widths of the two sides.

I just purchased a used frame in perfect condition from this maker- http://www.crumptoncycles.com/ . They don't get much higher end than this. No way I would get one new but the kind of guy who buys one of these is likely to keep them in very good condition.

It is funny how everyone just recommends the bike brand they own. As if that is the only option.

I've been loving my BMC, if I got a brand new bike, I would probably get a BMC SLR01 Team machine.

BUT, there are SO MANY good options out there. Also heard good things about:

- Giant TCR
- Orbea Orca
- Canyon bikes in general: Aeroad or Ultimate.
- Ridley Helium

I would probably not get Trek, Cannondale, or Specialized, because they are a dime a dozen.

If it were me I would wait to see what Canyon's price point will be in the US. They are known for being a little cheaper than comparable specs of other brands and they do sell a lot of framesets. I also would like having something that isn't common at the group rides.

Explain. Why is commonality a negetive? If everyone owned the best, why would you want something else?

Screw Canyon. They have been pulling your chain for how many years? Who cares about this mythical brand?

I can't speak for anyone else, but these brands being 'common' doesn't necessarily make them 'the best'. It's all about marketing and exposure.. brand saturation. I don't think Specialized, Trek, Giant, Cannondale are any better than any other brand out there. That being said, my personal opinion is that when I go to a bike rack with 50 bikes in it on a major cycling event, I don't want my bike to blend into the background of 49 other bikes that all look generally the same.. because they're all the same brand/model.

It's like walking into a parking lot with 500 Honda Accords and trying to pick yours out of the bunch. Why do that? There are other options and they're just as good if not better. Again, there's nothing inherently 'bad' about those brands, I personally, just prefer something with a little more 'personality'.

It is not negative, those brands make good bikes. I just don't want to own the same thing everyone else owns. It is just personal preference.

I own both a Trek and Cannondale, just because I got them second hand for a great price. It just wouldn't be my first choice if I was buying a new bike.

Hi, you must be new here! Welcome!

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lol

Marinoni :D you can get a custom Ti or Steel frame, or go full carbon; they sell the frame or the full bike and you'll be close to unique. Except in Montreal.. there's lots of Marinonis in Montreal :)

Awesome bikes.

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Are you using FSA or SRAM crankset? I think they are the only two that support BBRight without an adaptor, no? Maybe also Rotor and Tune? Also, isn't there 11mm extra on the NDS for BBRight? I don't see how the small spacer would work...

BBright?

Motobecane.

Yes and no. I am riding an FSA K-Force Light crank, but with BB386 long and large diameter spindle. So the only adapter needed is a spacer to even out the drive side width with the non-drive side width. The PF30 bearings need no other adaptation.

Why not get the FSA BBRight crankset? Or did you already have the BB386 before you bought the Workswell frameset? Sorry to @TimothyH for veering a bit OT.

Maybe another option is to check out your local frame builders. Some lesser known folks could make a custom frame for you for a little over a grand, no? One benefit is that they might also let you select some of the tube types. I used to know one builder that would mix MTB upper rear stays with a road tubeset to stiffen up the back a bit.

If i were buying a new high-end frame it would be Ti.
DeSalvo would be near the top of a long list.
DeSalvo Custom Cycles | Hand-built bikes, in Ashland, Oregon

If you want CF look at Calfee for a range of bikes.
www.calfeedesign.com

Custom available for each. you can probably get a standard frame in your favorite colorways.

How about Alchemy? Handmade in Denver, Co. built the way you want it or off their standard fit measurements. Gorgeous bikes. Allied as well, though I haven't seen one in the flesh yet. They raised some eyebrows at the NAHBS.

+1

building up a Cannondale or Specialized frameset doesn't make sense. Cheaper to just buy the entire bike and replace what you need.

Pinarello Dogma F10 will be cool on that setups. also you can check Look, De Rosa, Focus, Colnago, etc. they all sell frames on their dealers :)

Just goes to show you that some people have very different ideas of what mid-to-high-end means.

It's like asking what car should I buy. Brands? Unpossible to answer.

New Cervelo R5, to answer the unpossible question.

I didn't ask what kind of bike I should buy. I asked what manufacturers I should be looking at.

My car thread is here...Similar thread for gravel bikes...
These were tremendously helpful in the decision making process for what were major purchases.

By the way, Cervelo R5 is at the top of my list.


-Tim-