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Old 09-12-17 | 03:11 PM
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Do what works for you based on your current goals.

Personally, I don't like a computer on my bike. I do have an iPhone in the back pocket. I use the Strava app (mainly for social reasons), I push Start at ride start, End/Save at ride end.

Enjoy the ride.
You'll get more KOMs if you skip the last step.
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Old 09-12-17 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RPK79
You'll get more KOMs if you skip the last step.
Agreed, You'd think they'd realize that bikes are not allowed on most interstates or typically don't do 70mph and deal with those accordingly.
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Old 09-12-17 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Agreed, You'd think they'd realize that bikes are not allowed on most interstates or typically don't do 70mph and deal with those accordingly.
Oh, it's the guys that load up the car, drive across town to the park, ride 5 miles, and then drive home that always steal random KOMs around here.
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Old 09-12-17 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Agreed, You'd think they'd realize that bikes are not allowed on most interstates or typically don't do 70mph and deal with those accordingly.
Do I have my Strava rules right?

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In car
On motorcycle
Throwing GPS unit
Being towed
Editing the file for more speed before upload

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Being pushed
Doping
Drafting anything
Flagging rides faster than yours before upload to get a KOM on segment
Recumbent
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Old 09-12-17 | 03:30 PM
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I had put a old Cateye Wireless Micro on my wifes bike. She never really used it.

So, I took it off and put it on my Surly LHT. I didn't expect it, but it was a relief not worrying about the charge or taking it off after to upload it like I do with my Garmin 500. I had never realized it but its nice just having one less thing to think about when getting ready for a ride.

Some of my riding buddies at work were wondering if I had quit riding. If its not on Strava then it doesn't count. LOL.
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Old 09-12-17 | 03:43 PM
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My 18mm tires are too fast for Strava anyway. Couple that with my steel frame, drilled out components, 7-11 cycling cap and Briko shades and I. Am. Done. Son.


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Old 09-12-17 | 03:45 PM
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Flagging rides faster than yours before upload to get a KOM on segment
Recumbent
Two corrections here. You can flag, delete your ride, then re-upload.

Recumbents still are not cool. Who told you that? [MENTION=2795]Trsnrtr[/MENTION]?
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Old 09-12-17 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RPK79
Two corrections here. You can flag, delete your ride, then re-upload.

Recumbents still are not cool. Who told you that? [MENTION=2795]Trsnrtr[/MENTION]?
Do trikes count?
I think recumbent by definition mean lying backwards.
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Old 09-12-17 | 04:41 PM
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There are two aspects of GPS tracking as I see it. I use it to track accumulated distance and elevation. I figure I have to do it religiously if any of that data is to be reliable or of any use, and Strava on my phone seems to be the most convenient way of doing that.
The other aspect is mapping. Ever since I first learned to drive, and drove from Portland OR to San Diego the following week, I have wanted to have a map not only to see where I was going, but where I went. I'm not sure I can explain why, but it's something I've always wanted, and finding these apps has been very satisfying.
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Old 09-12-17 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RPK79
Two corrections here. You can flag, delete your ride, then re-upload.

Recumbents still are not cool. Who told you that? [MENTION=2795]Trsnrtr[/MENTION]?
Leave me out of this.

BTW, back in my low racer days, it was easy to get KOMs on flat or downhill segments and upright riders would complain. Never mind that many of them were running aero bikes, aero wheels and drafting in a group.
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Old 09-12-17 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge
Do trikes count?
I think recumbent by definition mean lying backwards.
Of course but they aren't going to KOM except on a free-fall downhill segment.
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Old 09-12-17 | 05:02 PM
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The watch that SF has would be cool and I could see that being my next computer solution.
I've been extremely pleased with mine, and stopped feeling any need for an Edge once I got one. It has just about every feature in an Edge, plus stuff that's useful for hiking, swimming, running, and everyday life. Like the text and email and phone call alerts in an Edge, those are useful in a watch, too. I get home, put my phone on a shelf or the charger or whatever, and I get my texts on my wrist, with the same device that tells me how fast I'm skiing, or what time it is when I wake up in the middle of the night and wonder if I can go back to sleep.

I'm willing to give up a little screen size for all that.

The thing being able to vibrate on your wrist when it needs your attention works very well.



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Old 09-12-17 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge
You must have small KOMs.
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The only rides I sent to Strava are the ones I drive my bike to do, they almost always involve gravel. Because these are the rides that will affect their global heat map, new places. I get value out of it for finding routes, and this is my way of giving back.

I have big enough feet that I don't need to play internet racing with strangers.
On that note, I have some First Ascents (by bike).
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Old 09-12-17 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
On that note, I have some First Ascents (by bike).
Glad you didn't say Road Bike.
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Old 09-12-17 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kbarch
... I have wanted to have a map not only to see where I was going, but where I went. I'm not sure I can explain why, but it's something I've always wanted, and finding these apps has been very satisfying.
I thought the breadcrumbs was the best part of the Hansel and Gretel story.
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Old 09-12-17 | 05:20 PM
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I like Strava. It's fun for me. When it stops being fun, I'll quit. I also don't like having a computer on my bike: checking my time, distance, and speed on Strava when I get home is kind of a treat, especially after a long ride. I find the analysis helpful for finding things to work on in order to go faster - though I don't care about going fast on every ride.

One of my riding friends recently quit Strava. I support the decision, but it kind of sucks having to text kudos after the ride
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Old 09-12-17 | 07:26 PM
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Glad you didn't say Road Bike.
It wouldn't be as impressive if someone had done it on a MTB first, and then I came along and did it on a road bike later. Big data says FA on any kind of bike.
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I've been using cycle computers since the 80's. My first one being one of big ugly Cateyes. Like this https://rustybikebell.wordpress.com/...yclo-computer/

So I've become so used to seeing my speed readout that I feel bad when I can't. I like my Garmin 500 as it allows me to swap between bikes and I can use the GPS speed without needing any ugly sensors (did you see the sensor on that Cateye I linked above? Haven't we come a long way?).

The Garmin is also useful to display my HR. I have a heart condition where it is really useful for me to monitor my HR to make sure it doesn't do something not good.

I used to join all the strava challenges but I can't be bothered anymore and I would go for PRs or KOMs but once you realise that the only way you will ever set a new PR is if the wind is blowing in the right direction then the novelty of strava segments wears off. I must admit I have royed with the idea of deleting my account and starting a new one just to reset my PRs.

It's still useful as a record of what I have done but everythng else about strava is less meaningful now.
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Old 09-12-17 | 08:57 PM
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I like using my GPS (only had it for a few months) and Strava. It's a little bit of good fun, and I like the data as well, especially elevation on my rare weekend outing.

Originally Posted by Doge
Do I have my Strava rules right?

Out
In car
On motorcycle
Throwing GPS unit
Being towed
Editing the file for more speed before upload

In
Being pushed
Doping
Drafting anything
Flagging rides faster than yours before upload to get a KOM on segment
Recumbent
Electric bike
I hid a ride from the leaderboards this morning because I drafted all the way through a segment (had a stiff headwind this morning too so it was a nice relief on the ride). The averages was 33 mph.
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Old 09-12-17 | 09:24 PM
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I like using my GPS (only had it for a few months) and Strava. It's a little bit of good fun, and I like the data as well, especially elevation on my rare weekend outing.



I hid a ride from the leaderboards this morning because I drafted all the way through a segment (had a stiff headwind this morning too so it was a nice relief on the ride). The averages was 33 mph.
With most segments there is an understanding of how the leaders got their stuff.

The rules are by segment.

Seems most the big segments, that is understood.
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Old 09-12-17 | 09:30 PM
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I like using my GPS (only had it for a few months) and Strava. It's a little bit of good fun, and I like the data as well, especially elevation on my rare weekend outing.



I hid a ride from the leaderboards this morning because I drafted all the way through a segment (had a stiff headwind this morning too so it was a nice relief on the ride). The averages was 33 mph.
There is a small insignificant segment where the leaders are holding onto a car. It started as a joke, now, seems to be a thing. I think that should be out (I don't approve) but I know 75% of those playing the game. The game is, can you get the driver to do it without the driver knowing they are doing it... And get the KOM.

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Old 09-12-17 | 09:35 PM
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Two corrections here. You can flag, delete your ride, then re-upload.
No need to delete and reupload. Just click the wrench and reprocess the ride.

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Old 09-12-17 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
If you don't want a GPS then fine but please don't tell other people how to enjoy the sport.

If I want to make it complex, enjoy analyzing the science behind it or like to compete against other people then it is my business.

Everyone should be free to enjoy cycling the way they want without being told how they should or should not be doing it.




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Of course, apologies, it was not my intention. Just wanted to hear different perspectives.
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Old 09-12-17 | 10:55 PM
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I use Garmin Edge520 and Zwift, so all rides go onto Strava. I'm never gonna be a world-beating, or even world-competitive cyclist, but I can track my fitness and progress easily, so they work for me.


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Old 09-13-17 | 12:50 AM
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My 18mm tires are too fast for Strava anyway. Couple that with my steel frame, drilled out components, 7-11 cycling cap and Briko shades and I. Am. Done. Son.


Too cool for you.


Still lubricating the B17 with my fmunga however, but after another 363,217 miles she'll be like my very own taint.


During Darwin's voyage on the Beagle, they took a trip inland with the gauchos in (now) Argentina.

He reported that for boots, they (the gauchos) skinned a horse's hocks, and pulled them on to shrink to fit,

and be worn until they rotted off.

Them and you are cool like that.
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