Opinions on Breezer bikes?
10-30-17 | 10:08 AM
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WTF are you talking about with this 'time-honored' jibberish? I can assure you not even Joe Breeze would approach spec'ing a Taiwanese OEM frame by saying, "First, we'll add some mass to the frame because a heavier bike will ride better." If you think adding more material to something will automagically make it stronger, you don't understand how any of this works.
I’m not privy to what Breeze or any designer would say to the Taiwanese, but it’s not relevant to the time-honored custom of reinforcing mount points and high load areas like HT/DT junctions and disc mounts with extra material, gussets, or bracing, or using thicker walled tubing to achieve the same. More mass is, not surprisingly, more mass, irrespective of what is done with it.
Again, I suspect in this case that the weight is in thicker wall tubing primarily for durability.
10-30-17 | 04:58 PM
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Of course the damn bike isn't available until January, so I guess I'll keep shopping.
10-31-17 | 11:03 AM
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Hmm, I'm not seeing any USA info for Charge now, but here's the site: 2017 Plug 2 - Charge Bikes
10-31-17 | 11:19 AM
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Joe Breeze used to be a frame builder in the 70's, now his name is a division of a holding company that gets them built ..
by OEM contract factories, to Spec. He may be retired to Hawaii from that sale of his brand.
they are going for the transportation bike sector, now several others are too, after watching the Breezer sales figures
you have a dealer for that brand?, take a test ride..
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by OEM contract factories, to Spec. He may be retired to Hawaii from that sale of his brand.
they are going for the transportation bike sector, now several others are too, after watching the Breezer sales figures
you have a dealer for that brand?, take a test ride..
....
I see him around town, & at the bike museum,
so not Hawaii, & still involved w/ bikes.
10-31-17 | 01:54 PM
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Eh I'm 230 lbs, not likely to get below 180. My daily loop is going to be 30 miles, 20 of which is a gravel road nobody lives on that's lucky to see one vehicle a day. The two dead-end out&back spur roads can add another 20 miles, and those roads might not see anybody for months once their campgrounds shut down(and they're already shut down). So I'm going to have probably 15, 20 lbs of overnight gear & food on whatever bike I ride at all times for safety. And overnight bikepacking is a possibility.
So a sturdy bike is a must.
Thank you for the charge suggestion.
So a sturdy bike is a must.
Thank you for the charge suggestion.
10-31-17 | 07:41 PM
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Eh I'm 230 lbs, not likely to get below 180. My daily loop is going to be 30 miles, 20 of which is a gravel road nobody lives on that's lucky to see one vehicle a day. The two dead-end out&back spur roads can add another 20 miles, and those roads might not see anybody for months once their campgrounds shut down(and they're already shut down). So I'm going to have probably 15, 20 lbs of overnight gear & food on whatever bike I ride at all times for safety. And overnight bikepacking is a possibility.
So a sturdy bike is a must.
Thank you for the charge suggestion.
So a sturdy bike is a must.
Thank you for the charge suggestion.
If you prefer steel, you can a Cotic Escapade frameset shipped over from the UK for $490. I reckon you could build it up comparably for $1.2k-ish.
Www.cotic.co.uk
11-02-17 | 02:00 AM
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Looks like a nice suggestion, but it seems a bit small for the XL. I've decided to just put 28mm gravel king tires on my road bike, and see how long I can stand that. I'm hoping I can at least put off spending any more $$ until the weather gets bad in late December, early January. It seems like nothing that's grabbed my interest is available, or available in my size(60-62) right now.
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