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utoner34 06-15-18 05:59 PM

12x142 TA rear hub
 
On my road bike I have 12x142 TA rear hub with centerlock disc and 24 holes. When I was looking at the prices of these I was shocked.

Why are road hubs so much expensive than mtb? For example, shimano xt would cost 60$ (in bike24).

Marcus_Ti 06-15-18 06:09 PM

It is the roadie tax....although Shimano Ultegra hubs are still reasonable. Weight-weenieism is also a factor...

Seriously WRT the roadie tax... why do roadie bicycle tires start costing as much as steel-belted radial car tires...with a ton more material, and a ton more engineering? Because people will pay $90 for a friggin bicycle tire.

WhyFi 06-15-18 06:26 PM

It there a weight difference?

Lazyass 06-15-18 07:05 PM

The new 105 R7000 disc hubs should be a decent price. Supposed to be out next month. I know the non-disc rear hub is suppose to retail at $60. Jejamescycles already has some R7000 parts on their website.

utoner34 06-16-18 07:30 AM

The main reason I was looking at rear hubs is because my current noname? hub (came with specialized axis wheels) is too freaking load and I hate that, I like silent hubs as much as possible.

On my mtb bike I was able to achieve silence by buying shimano xt hub, but on my road bike it appears there is no such solution, at least not for any kind of reasonable money.

I heard solution of greasing hubs but not sure if I can achieve this and also greasing has its flaws apparently.

utoner34 06-16-18 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 20396559)
It there a weight difference?

Weight difference must be cased by the lack of dollar bills in your wallet after purchase.

WhyFi 06-16-18 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by utoner34 (Post 20397119)
Weight difference must be cased by the lack of dollar bills in your wallet after purchase.

Wow - super clever. Kudos.

Marcus_Ti 06-16-18 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by utoner34 (Post 20397104)
The main reason I was looking at rear hubs is because my current noname? hub (came with specialized axis wheels) is too freaking load and I hate that, I like silent hubs as much as possible.

On my mtb bike I was able to achieve silence by buying shimano xt hub, but on my road bike it appears there is no such solution, at least not for any kind of reasonable money.

I heard solution of greasing hubs but not sure if I can achieve this and also greasing has its flaws apparently.

Depends on the hubs. Cartridge bearing thru-axle hubs can be really simple/stupid to lubricate. My Novatec/Bitex hubs it is a 3-minute job with two Builder-Bob adjustable-crescent wrenches, and I don't even "need" to remove the cassette or disc rotor. Loosen the axle, the axle and FH/pawls slide right out...found out as I was having noises out of one, and it was an annoying rattlesnake of a hub to boot. Look on Youtube to see if you can find a video of someone servicing the FH of your hub.

As always...beware pulling things apart willy-nilly lest you cannot get Humpty Dumpty back together again. Especially if you suspect your hubs might have cones and not cartridges (some are still out there being made)

Racing Dan 06-16-18 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by utoner34 (Post 20396502)
On my road bike I have 12x142 TA rear hub with centerlock disc and 24 holes. When I was looking at the prices of these I was shocked.

Why are road hubs so much expensive than mtb? For example, shimano xt would cost 60$ (in bike24).

Cant you just get at mtb hub? Afaik 12x142 is the same no matter if its for road or mtb.

Marcus_Ti 06-16-18 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Racing Dan (Post 20397137)
Cant you just get at mtb hub? Afaik 12x142 is the same no matter if its for road or mtb.

Freehub and cassette compatibility is still an issue at least going one way between Shimano 11s road and MTB, isn't it? I haven't had enough coffee to keep the latest flow-chart in my head.

Racing Dan 06-16-18 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti (Post 20397142)
Freehub and cassette compatibility is still an issue at least going one way between Shimano 11s road and MTB, isn't it? I haven't had enough coffee to keep the latest flow-chart in my head.

Possibly. Now that you mention it, Im not 100% sure a 11sp road cassette will always fit a shimano style 11sp mtb hub.

utoner34 06-16-18 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti (Post 20397142)
Freehub and cassette compatibility is still an issue at least going one way between Shimano 11s road and MTB, isn't it? I haven't had enough coffee to keep the latest flow-chart in my head.

I was looking at mtb hubs but I am not sure how compatibility can be checked.

The biggest problem was actually 24 holes on my current rim, while mtb hubs usually have 32.


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