Carbon bike finally asploded...
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An impact like that to break a carbon fork would easily have screwed up a steel fork. A new fork would be required regardless if it's steel or CF. Glad you're alright!
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Actually, it is hard to say how a steel fork would have fared.
It appears as if a significant amount of the damage was abrasion damage. The paint would have been toast. But, it depends a bit on how much of direct frontal impact it took vs a grinding/glancing side impact.
This may be one of those things that CF does poorly with, focal impacts and deep abrasion.
You could ask your new found friend if he would be willing to repeat the experiment with a steel bike.
Of course, we could all be sitting around here debating whether a steel fork with deep dents and scratches, and perhaps somewhat out of alignment would be rideable or repairable.
It appears as if a significant amount of the damage was abrasion damage. The paint would have been toast. But, it depends a bit on how much of direct frontal impact it took vs a grinding/glancing side impact.
This may be one of those things that CF does poorly with, focal impacts and deep abrasion.
You could ask your new found friend if he would be willing to repeat the experiment with a steel bike.
Of course, we could all be sitting around here debating whether a steel fork with deep dents and scratches, and perhaps somewhat out of alignment would be rideable or repairable.
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Exploding carbon is great thread fodder, but I think there's a bigger controversy brewing. E-bikes! It sounds like this incident happened on a bike path or MUP- typically motorized vehicles are NOT allowed on them. I see more ebikes all the time. I live on a hill that's popular for roadies, but I've been seeing people zipping by a impossibly fast. Then I see it's an e-bike.
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Exploding carbon is great thread fodder, but I think there's a bigger controversy brewing. E-bikes! It sounds like this incident happened on a bike path or MUP- typically motorized vehicles are NOT allowed on them. I see more ebikes all the time. I live on a hill that's popular for roadies, but I've been seeing people zipping by a impossibly fast. Then I see it's an e-bike.
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I've posted before about a woman on a cruiser bike who came around a blind corner on my side of a path. I swerved a bit and avoided a head on, but got broadsided. Bent my front wheel and large chain ring. Also, screwed up my leg, which still has issues three years later. Worse accident I've ever had. You got off light.
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Most CF repair companies will not repair forks, due to the fact that the insurance company that most repair shops will not allow it. Replacing the fork won't be a problem, but it's often impossible to get one with an exact paint match.
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Actually, it is hard to say how a steel fork would have fared.
It appears as if a significant amount of the damage was abrasion damage. The paint would have been toast. But, it depends a bit on how much of direct frontal impact it took vs a grinding/glancing side impact.
This may be one of those things that CF does poorly with, focal impacts and deep abrasion.
You could ask your new found friend if he would be willing to repeat the experiment with a steel bike.
Of course, we could all be sitting around here debating whether a steel fork with deep dents and scratches, and perhaps somewhat out of alignment would be rideable or repairable.
It appears as if a significant amount of the damage was abrasion damage. The paint would have been toast. But, it depends a bit on how much of direct frontal impact it took vs a grinding/glancing side impact.
This may be one of those things that CF does poorly with, focal impacts and deep abrasion.
You could ask your new found friend if he would be willing to repeat the experiment with a steel bike.
Of course, we could all be sitting around here debating whether a steel fork with deep dents and scratches, and perhaps somewhat out of alignment would be rideable or repairable.
Nowadays even a carbon bike can be fixed, but its not a good idea since part of its strength and rigidity/flexibility is derived from its uniformity. Particularly important with a fork.
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Lots of suggestions here.
However, since each model year only has a couple of paint styles, it is quite possible a good match will show up on the used market, especially if one has some patience, and the headtube is moderately short.
If it is critical to ride the bike, then perhaps find a cheap replacement, then hunt for a better match later.
- Duct Tape
- Superglue
- Convert to Lefty
- Buffing and polishing
However, since each model year only has a couple of paint styles, it is quite possible a good match will show up on the used market, especially if one has some patience, and the headtube is moderately short.
If it is critical to ride the bike, then perhaps find a cheap replacement, then hunt for a better match later.
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If not severe, they may be able to be bent back.
However, in this case, we are seeing a shattering of primarily the right fork blade.
I suppose it could have happened with extreme flex, but my interpretation is that the fork blade itself bore the brunt of the impact.
So, if it was steel, it probably would have ended up with a pretty significant dent (and perhaps a bend and gouge).
So, the question then remains whether one wishes to ride the dented fork. It may well be OK, but the dent provides a focal point for future bends and cracks.
It might well provide a rideable alternative for the sort term, but in the long term, the steel fork would likely also end up in the scrap heap.
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Don't know if it'd be worth it for just a fork, but Drew Wilson at Cyclocarbon's work is supposed to be top notch. His website is outdated but I think he's more active posting things on facebook. Carbon Bicycle Frame and Wheel RepairCyclocarbon
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As mentioned above, most reputable CF repair shops won't touch a project like that. In part because a fork failure can lead to a bad crash, whereas a chainstay failure may simply leave a rider stopped beside the road.
And this one isn't just a scratch, but a shattered fork, and potentially internal damage the entire length of the fork blade.
Another risk is the fork itself likely provides some spring effect to the bike. And, creating something that would spring asymmetrically would potentially negatively impact control.
The last issue is that getting a reputable shop to do the repair will likely cost on the order of $300 to $500. The economics just aren't there.
Now, doing this as a home repair???? One can certainly acquire carbon fiber material and lay it up. However, all the reasons above still apply.
The best use of one's time would be to find a $150 replacement, and repaint to match the frame if an exact match can't be found.
And this one isn't just a scratch, but a shattered fork, and potentially internal damage the entire length of the fork blade.
Another risk is the fork itself likely provides some spring effect to the bike. And, creating something that would spring asymmetrically would potentially negatively impact control.
The last issue is that getting a reputable shop to do the repair will likely cost on the order of $300 to $500. The economics just aren't there.
Now, doing this as a home repair???? One can certainly acquire carbon fiber material and lay it up. However, all the reasons above still apply.
The best use of one's time would be to find a $150 replacement, and repaint to match the frame if an exact match can't be found.
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As mentioned above, most reputable CF repair shops won't touch a project like that. In part because a fork failure can lead to a bad crash....
Now, doing this as a home repair???? One can certainly acquire carbon fiber material and lay it up. However, all the reasons above still apply.
The best use of one's time would be to find a $150 replacement, and repaint to match the frame if an exact match can't be found.
Now, doing this as a home repair???? One can certainly acquire carbon fiber material and lay it up. However, all the reasons above still apply.
The best use of one's time would be to find a $150 replacement, and repaint to match the frame if an exact match can't be found.
I would contact Specialized about buying a replacement. They might have one, but it’s quite likely that the paint won’t match
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Well the inevitable finally happened. My carbon fork shattered. May have had something to do with a head-on collision with an e-bike but I'm sure a steel fork would have come out unscathed...
Got complacent on a blind corner I've gone around 800+ times in the last few years. It's rare to see another cyclist but this time was the perfect storm and no time to react. Broken fork and sore shin.
Got complacent on a blind corner I've gone around 800+ times in the last few years. It's rare to see another cyclist but this time was the perfect storm and no time to react. Broken fork and sore shin.
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To the OP, please do not try to repair this yourself. I work for a framebuilder that also does CF repair, and there’s no way that we would even touch that.
I would contact Specialized about buying a replacement. They might have one, but it’s quite likely that the paint won’t match
I would contact Specialized about buying a replacement. They might have one, but it’s quite likely that the paint won’t match
One a more serious note we have a very good local CF rebuilder but I never considered repairing the fork. I found a new one on ebay for $200. Color match is close enough for an older bike.
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Tri guy almost got me on a blind corner recently. One hand on the aerobar, the other with a drink bottle on my side of the trail.
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Just replace it. Find a cheap replacement in a complimentary color if you can't find an original. Why would you even consider riding on it?