jon c. 

I Love that one!

raria

Calling @TimothyH a troll is a bit harsh. He's answered many of my questions very informatively, often showing great insight and wisdom.

Nachoman

[QUOTE=raria;20528178]Calling @TimothyH a troll is a bit harsh. He's answered many of my questions very informatively, often showing great insight and wisdom.[/QUOTE]

Bah Humbug

I agree it's not fair to call him a troll; I believe he firmly believes his posts and is repeatedly surprised that we (or many of us) disagree. He's just also unfortunately insecure and keeps going back to the well hoping to get external validation for his opinions.

Caliper

"Death bike"? Really?

I haven't seen these jerseys, but being tired of all the monochroatic kit that seems to dominate the market currently, I think I'll look into it.

nayr497

Ha, interesting timing for me to see this thread! I was out seeing some music last night in a big university town. A very preppy college dude was wearing a camo baseball hat backwards. It struck me as a stood there how camo has been fully seized and co-opted by marketing and consumerist folks. It used to be for those in the military. It used to be for Corey Feldman and his vampire hunting buddies. It used to be for punks and punk rockers. Not anymore.

It's kinda like one step beyond the explosion of work wear, like Carhartt, becoming biz-cas wear for preppy folks...

nayr497

Can't help but chime in on this thread. Here goes, all just personal opinion, since that is generally how fashion/kit choice/equipment choice goes...

I have always cared about how I look, from the sports fields/courts, to around town, to work, etc. Looking good makes me feel good, call me shallow

I'm generally appalled at our current level of street fashion in the U.S. Men wearing "fashion" sweatpants at expensive restaurants? Women in completely transparent leggings at the grocery store? Men and women going around town in slippers? Ugh, it can be overwhelming out there, folks. And then there is the current fascination, for some folks, with seemingly trying to look at "zany" as possible by wearing 17 different patterns at one time...Pattern Vomit seems to be the hottest trend...Adults dressing as if they're a three year old given free reign to pick out their own outfit from their dresser. Beyond me. You can look colorful and sharp without looking absurd. Modesty & class are sure nice, but surely lacking from my perspective.

And it seems to have hit the cycling world. I live in a pretty heavy road, cross, and mtb bike area. I'm now appalled to see how many fellow cyclists seemingly found the most garish kit possible, paired it all together, and jumped on the saddle. Socks, bibs, jersey ALL overwhelming patterns and colors. Yowzers. It's a head scratcher for me. Even if you prefer bright cycling clothing, you can do it tastefully. Right now, in my book, the Truly Tasteless Cyclists are absolutely dominating the Classy, Refined Rouleurs. It's a shame. (And, at the other end of the color spectrum I see more and more dudes on $5000+ bikes in all black, no lights, low lighting conditions. Again, in my own opinion, that is just insane. I have made it a personal goal to do my best to make certain motorists can't claim they didn't see me...jersey color, bike lights, and riding condition awareness are all aids I employ towards this end.)

Oh well, I realize most folks think adults on bicycles are fools to begin with, so there is that...

LesterOfPuppets

Faux Camo Gingham is the next big thing. Trust me on this one.

Maelochs

This is hilarious ... a person starts out by acknowledging that everything about fashion is entirely subjective, and then goes on a rant about how "wrong" everyone else is ....

Did you ever think that a lot of the people who see you think you look terrible? No, because it is All In Your Head.

And maybe they are every bit as convinced as you are that they look absolutely fabulous. You think you are doing it "right," but cannot seem to grasp that they think the same ... and their opinions carry Exactly the same weight as yours.

I don't have any problem with people who think they look great. No reason not to dress in the way that each finds pleasing. And for all I know, you and I share exactly the same tastes ... BUT ...

I refuse to be so small-minded as to think i am right for everyone, and I refuse to put everyone down if they have their own tastes.

This is where threads like this will always end up ... People who cannot say "I am doing it right" and at the same time refrain for telling everyone else they are doing it wrong.

sevenmag

I like the high vis faux camo patterns I saw earlier in this thread. I nearly always wear some high vis when I'm on the bike. I live pretty rural in South Carolina and it's hunting season right now so I'm all high vis all the time until it's over.

WhyFi

La Passione (sp?) has a sale going right now. There are a few jerseys with camo sleeves. I'd actually buy the blue one of they had it in my size.

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TimothyH

Fitting right in with this thread, the La Passion website says of the camo jerseys, "Let everybody else ride unnoticed. Ride in a well recognizable complete camouflage look." and "It's a style statement, not just a Jersey."

But I do agree. The blue isn't bad at all. I've seen La Passion stuff several times on rides recently and it looks good. The two people I asked seem to enjoy their gear and both used the phrase "great value."

I'm actually thinking about the fashionable high-vis mideweight jersey in yellow which happens to be on sale.


-Tim-

Bah Humbug

Something about that flat mid-blue doesn't do it for me, like the Navy used on a bunch of Cervelos these days. It seems popular though.

nycphotography

fify

WhyFi

I actually like the white one better, but my nipples tend to show through with white, so, uh, so much for that.

Bah Humbug

You're talking to the guy who hasn't worn a shirt for running in... let me think...

Might be a few years.

tangerineowl

I keep my eye open for new camo jersey offerings. Have worn a ThePedla one for sometime now and love it.

nycphotography

Hmm I bet if I wore that in NYC it'd be meetup central over the bridges.

DrIsotope

Remember when the Hello Kitty parent company (Sanrio) tried to tell us that it's not actually a cat, but a girl in a costume, and the Hello Kitty Fandom was just like... NO. SHE IS AN ADORABLE CAT.

The internet is a trip.

TimothyH

That's what base layers are for.




-Tim-

mstateglfr 

its like Castelli designed a baselayer by drawing inspiration from a college professor's sweater vest.

Bah Humbug

Wouldn't that base layer show through a white jersey though? And wouldn't that look weird? Like when black bib straps show through a light jersey.

TimothyH

Bib straps or base layer showing through a jersey is now being called a "reveal" by manufacturers. A reveal is actually the silk or satin liner of a suit jacket or sports coat. The interesting pattern 'reveals" itself when you move about and people around you get a glimpse inside your jacket. But yeah, manufacturers have found a way to market something showing through a jersey as fashionable.

I suppose a white base layer would work to hide nipples. Or perhaps @WhyFi can find some wicking/breathable pasties.

The colored base layer looks good under a dark or monochrome jersey. It really pops when the jersey is unzipped a little for ventilation. I like wearing mine when I wear all black or grey for gravel. Castelli has some new Pro Mesh base layers with color but they are not suitable for really hot conditions.

https://www.castelli-cycling.com/us/...451808518P-034


-Tim-

WhyFi

I still haven't warmed to the idea of an additional layer for anything other than additional warmth - maybe I'll get there some day. In terms of the Castelli, yeah, it would look nice peeking through an unzipped darker jersey, but showing through a jersey wouldn't be appealing to me at all. I don't know why, but I just don't like transparent/semi-transparent garments.

Capo72

I have the red and the gray version of this. With matching socks and glove of course! good quality for the $$.