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Old 06-27-19 | 07:15 AM
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Congratulations, looks awesome! Ride safe and let us know how you enjoy them.

How will you be setting them up?
Thanks! I’ll be setting them up exactly the same as my current wheelset first, for comparison. 25mm pirelli P Zero tires, butyl tubes with orange endurance seal in them. Going to get some Black Prince pads. Do people know what the difference is between RacePro and FlashPro etc.?

EDIT: Ah ok. Swisstop just likes to name things weirdly. Black Prince is their high modulation carbon compound. FlashPro refers to their standard Shimano style pads. Flash EVO is similar, but thinner for wide rims. RacePro is for Campy. I think I’m going to go for the FlashPro because that’s the only one available with brake shoes. Unless it’s too expensive.

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Old 06-28-19 | 03:27 PM
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Don’t mind me. Just excited that my wheels are done.

492g and 494g for the (internal nipple drilled) rims. 1592g for the wheelset. Pretty much on the dot.
Did you order from the North American or Global warehouse?
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Old 06-28-19 | 04:07 PM
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Did you order from the North American or Global warehouse?
Global. Wanted to save money, plus I wanted internal nipples and only the valve decals, and I don’t know if NA warehouse does that.
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Old 06-28-19 | 07:02 PM
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Global. Wanted to save money, plus I wanted internal nipples and only the valve decals, and I don’t know if NA warehouse does that.
Thanks. I am looking at the Onyx hubs which are only available at the NA warehouse which means the wheels will be machine built. Tempting to go with the DT240s from the Global warehouse saving a lot of $ and getting a hand built wheelset.
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Old 06-28-19 | 07:08 PM
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Thanks. I am looking at the Onyx hubs which are only available at the NA warehouse which means the wheels will be machine built. Tempting to go with the DT240s from the Global warehouse saving a lot of $ and getting a hand built wheelset.
Did you ask LB if they have Onyx hubs at the global center? They might be willing to make an exception for a small upcharge. I was going to get Dura Ace hubs from them but their supplier ran out (since, I guess, Shimano doesn’t really make them anymore)
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Old 06-28-19 | 07:17 PM
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Thanks. I am looking at the Onyx hubs which are only available at the NA warehouse which means the wheels will be machine built. Tempting to go with the DT240s from the Global warehouse saving a lot of $ and getting a hand built wheelset.
The DTs will be machine guns. They'll also take longer to get what with crossing an ocean. OTOH they too are nice hubs.
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Old 06-28-19 | 07:52 PM
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Old 06-28-19 | 08:41 PM
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Thanks. They need to update their N.A. website. It still shows them being built on a machine.

Outdated Web Page Showing Machine Built Wheels
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Old 06-28-19 | 08:46 PM
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Did you ask LB if they have Onyx hubs at the global center? They might be willing to make an exception for a small upcharge. I was going to get Dura Ace hubs from them but their supplier ran out (since, I guess, Shimano doesn’t really make them anymore)
Yes. I emailed the China site and they can't do anything with price on the Onyx since they don't stock them and would have to have them shipped in from the North American warehouse. Whereas they stock the DT240s and get good pricing on them.
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The DTs will be machine guns. They'll also take longer to get what with crossing an ocean. OTOH they too are nice hubs.
Yep. I really want the Onyx but the DT240s are so much less costly and they are great hubs from what everybody says. But if I amortize the additional cost of the Onyx over the (hopefully) many years I have the wheels I can kind of rationalize it to myself I know you love yours.
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I've already been very happy with my DT240s.
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Old 06-29-19 | 01:30 PM
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Global. Wanted to save money, plus I wanted internal nipples and only the valve decals, and I don’t know if NA warehouse does that.
Did you have to pay the 25% tariff on your wheels since they were imported from China?
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Old 06-29-19 | 04:25 PM
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I plan on buying a rim today or tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by August West
Did you have to pay the 25% tariff on your wheels since they were imported from China?
I haven't seen anyone get screwed by the Drumpf tariff yet, but it could happen.
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Originally Posted by Doge
I plan on buying a rim today or tomorrow.
What do you have in mind?
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
What do you have in mind?
Junior is a bit hard on wheels. I'm way heavier and break way less.
But as to what I will get I am not 100% sure. It will be a tubeless MTB setup 29er...
I may buy rim, or get a whole wheel and get this one rebuilt back at the factory.
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Old 06-29-19 | 06:31 PM
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I haven't seen anyone get screwed by the Drumpf tariff yet, but it could happen.
Curious since I thought they included cycling stuff in the new tax. If they decide to start collecting it one could be screwed since it is collected by the US government after the item is imported. So you'd have to pay the tax or send the wheels back and good luck getting a refund. Since I really want the Onyx hubs anyway I might just bite the bullet and order from the N.A. warehouse. I don't believe we have an import tax with Canada yet.
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Old 06-29-19 | 06:49 PM
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Did you have to pay the 25% tariff on your wheels since they were imported from China?
USPS hasn’t received my package yet so I’m not sure. I’ll make a post once I receive the wheels or if I get hit
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Originally Posted by smashndash
USPS hasn’t received my package yet so I’m not sure. I’ll make a post once I receive the wheels or if I get hit
Thanks and good luck.
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Old 06-29-19 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by August West
Curious since I thought they included cycling stuff in the new tax. If they decide to start collecting it one could be screwed since it is collected by the US government after the item is imported. So you'd have to pay the tax or send the wheels back and good luck getting a refund. Since I really want the Onyx hubs anyway I might just bite the bullet and order from the N.A. warehouse. I don't believe we have an import tax with Canada yet.
FYI, since the payments for LB are processed up in Canada...if you pay with VISA or a credit card, the purchase will pull an international surcharge. If you pay with PayPal and money transfer, it doesn't. It isn't a huge ding, but when I saw it I wondered about it.
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Old 06-29-19 | 08:59 PM
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FYI, since the payments for LB are processed up in Canada...if you pay with VISA or a credit card, the purchase will pull an international surcharge. If you pay with PayPal and money transfer, it doesn't. It isn't a huge ding, but when I saw it I wondered about it.
I remember seeing that posted by someone so if I'm planning on doing a PayPal transaction. I think my CC company charges 3% international fee. Plus, I see on their website if you click on the coupon code to share it on Facebook you get can get a 3% discount for any item. Guess I'll be creating a FB account.
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Old 06-29-19 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge
Junior is a bit hard on wheels. I'm way heavier and break way less.
But as to what I will get I am not 100% sure. It will be a tubeless MTB setup 29er...
I may buy rim, or get a whole wheel and get this one rebuilt back at the factory.
How did that one break?
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Old 06-29-19 | 09:47 PM
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How did that one break?
Obviously JRA!
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Old 06-29-19 | 09:54 PM
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How did that one break?
Most painfully, I suspect.
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Old 06-29-19 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
How did that one break?
My guess, too low pressure, 20 psi and rock hit, then tire wrapped around rim.
This was training on wheels that were supposed to be for racing. I think he just caught a rock.
This stuff happens, more with him.

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