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03-31-19, 06:17 AM
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Hey @Bah Humbug, I have a dumb running question. I got up and went on a run this morning in a fasted state. I went at what I felt to be just my usual cruising pace. It turned out, afterwards, that my actual pace was about 1 minute/mile slower than perceived. Is that typical for a fasting run?
03-31-19, 06:20 AM
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I won't say I love it, but the same applies as to gentrification: the place I grew up wishes it had the problem of more people and money flowing in. That's why I have so little patience for the Austinites complaining about the city's growth.
03-31-19, 06:25 AM
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If you constantly suck down sugar during exercise, maybe. I never liked running with food and do almost all of my runs fasted (and the definition of "fasted" gets the hardcore geeks over at ST all riled up). Do you think you were still all depleted from yesterday? That could certainly do it. If you ate adequately yesterday I'd look elsewhere, maybe to your legs not being recovered, or still sluggish if you don't normally run first thing.
03-31-19, 06:35 AM
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BTW, since I broke a spoke on my rear wheel a couple days ago, I needed to redo my tubeless rear. It's the rim/tire that I caught in a crack and chewed up a little and shredding the tire. Anyway, I've repaired the rim and I mounted a new tubeless tire last night. Good to go and... it has a shiny cassette and a new chain for company. 
03-31-19, 06:37 AM
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03-31-19, 06:39 AM
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03-31-19, 06:40 AM
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03-31-19, 06:40 AM
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When is Paris-Roubaix?
03-31-19, 06:41 AM
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Too late to change your mind? I went for a run early, and I hope to ride later once this stupid rain blows through.
03-31-19, 06:45 AM
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Not sure but my tubeless rims/wheels weigh the same as my other wheels. They do have a deep groove for the tubeless tire to seat in so maybe the rim is thicker, I don’t know. Even at my hefty weight, my 25c tires run low psi.
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03-31-19, 06:50 AM
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03-31-19, 07:18 AM
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It's definitely sad. As well, those Toll Bros build crappy McMansions using shoddy workmanship and materials. They suck.
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03-31-19, 07:34 AM
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50/50. I may snag some citrus stuff from our aqueous tank at work to try, but I doubt it will be much different. As you say, even if you have to use a brush for the last 5%, the whole process is far less painful than it was. At work, we had the previous mentioned tank, but that took scrubbing, and at home, it took chemicals.
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Not too late. But I have other, equally important things on the docket. And a rest day never hurts. I will spend the heart of the day practicing the art of packing two bikes--one complete, sans wheels, and one frame set into the same box. So that when the time comes to return from the US, it won't all be brand new.
03-31-19, 07:51 AM
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I don't see why they would - you're dealing with the same kinds of pressure, both internal and external, tubed or not. It's just that the rim bed profile is a little different to facilitate mounting and retention.
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Went for a wheezy morning ride in VA. I was hoping that the three day car ride would be long enough to shake the cold that I'd received from the kids, but it was not. Sad.
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It's raining here. Cats are funny creatures.
03-31-19, 08:21 AM
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it is a good thing. Think of all the people who willl now be blessed to have you as a neighbor.
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I don’t normally run first thing in the morning. Today was the first run in recent memory where I had zero calories for previous 10+ hours. It’s probanly other factors at play but I was curious if being fully fasted should effect my pace for a short run. Physiologically it should not really matter until you get to around 2 hours. And my run was only 30 minutes so I probably should not blame the fasted state. I will keep at it. The goal is not to be competitive with running anyway, the goal is to maintain fitness.
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03-31-19, 08:56 AM
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03-31-19, 08:57 AM
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03-31-19, 09:06 AM
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I don’t normally run first thing in the morning. Today was the first run in recent memory where I had zero calories for previous 10+ hours. It’s probanly other factors at play but I was curious if being fully fasted should effect my pace for a short run. Physiologically it should not really matter until you get to around 2 hours. And my run was only 30 minutes so I probably should not blame the fasted state. I will keep at it. The goal is not to be competitive with running anyway, the goal is to maintain fitness.