zzztt. Electric deraileurs
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What about electromagnetic pulses...commonly reffered to as EMPs. You'd be stuck in one gear for the rest of your life!
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I dont want an integral part of my bike to rely on batteries.
Edit- Also, wireless creates a ton of potential problems. Each device would need its own unique transmitting signature to prevent one racer from shifting his and everyone nearby's gears. This brings interference and hacking into the equation as well.
Edit- Also, wireless creates a ton of potential problems. Each device would need its own unique transmitting signature to prevent one racer from shifting his and everyone nearby's gears. This brings interference and hacking into the equation as well.
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They could be okay. I use a lot of electric and electronic stuff from day-to-day. Some of it is quite reliable. Some not so.
I'm sure Shimano has toyed with the idea a lot... wouldn't you think?
The shifters could be cheap and small - just a couple buttons... But the derailers are the tricky part. They could possibly be made simply...
Cables are kind of a lousy way to do shifters. Cables are always getting dirty, frayed, &c. How about pneumatic shifters? Hydraulic?
I'm sure Shimano has toyed with the idea a lot... wouldn't you think?
The shifters could be cheap and small - just a couple buttons... But the derailers are the tricky part. They could possibly be made simply...
Cables are kind of a lousy way to do shifters. Cables are always getting dirty, frayed, &c. How about pneumatic shifters? Hydraulic?
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Originally Posted by Phantoj
They could be okay. I use a lot of electric and electronic stuff from day-to-day. Some of it is quite reliable. Some not so.
I'm sure Shimano has toyed with the idea a lot... wouldn't you think?
The shifters could be cheap and small - just a couple buttons... But the derailers are the tricky part. They could possibly be made simply...
Cables are kind of a lousy way to do shifters. Cables are always getting dirty, frayed, &c. How about pneumatic shifters? Hydraulic?
I'm sure Shimano has toyed with the idea a lot... wouldn't you think?
The shifters could be cheap and small - just a couple buttons... But the derailers are the tricky part. They could possibly be made simply...
Cables are kind of a lousy way to do shifters. Cables are always getting dirty, frayed, &c. How about pneumatic shifters? Hydraulic?
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Originally Posted by lotek
edit: I believe it's a wireless system for the most part, no cables or wires
from brifters to derailleurs). Individually coded to avoid interference.
Can you imagine if a pro initiated a shift and half the peloton shifted?
bloody murder would ensue.
Marty
from brifters to derailleurs). Individually coded to avoid interference.
Can you imagine if a pro initiated a shift and half the peloton shifted?
bloody murder would ensue.
Marty
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Originally Posted by lotek
y'all should read up on the system
(campy only dot com has good write up)
before you go running off at the mouth.
(campy only dot com has good write up)
before you go running off at the mouth.
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"Oh man... I'm so mad at this Campy crap. I was sprinting for the line and went to shift to the 11. Freaking battery was dead and I lost the sprint."
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Originally Posted by DocRay
I've just come back from Italy-Campy's talking about releasing electric deraileur sets next year.
Does this seem like the NASA $2Million pressurized writing pen/ Russian pencil situation??
Does this seem like the NASA $2Million pressurized writing pen/ Russian pencil situation??
Brifter as prefered position sucks if you ever want to use drops effectively. You shouldn't go rearward when you drop down. You should go forward like they did in the old days before brifters.
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I think having a button or switch to shift would be really nice too. Additionaly, if it was simply a switch, you could have sever switches to activate shifts, namely a switch on the hoods and one on the drops somewhere in more ergonomic positions.
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Originally Posted by Drayko
I think having a button or switch to shift would be really nice too. Additionaly, if it was simply a switch, you could have sever switches to activate shifts, namely a switch on the hoods and one on the drops somewhere in more ergonomic positions.
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I like my current Ultegra shifters, but it would be cool if I could just push a small button to shift.
It would be nice to eliminate the cable clutter in front and the added weight of the shifters and cables.
It would be nice to eliminate the cable clutter in front and the added weight of the shifters and cables.
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Bah, moan for all you want, but when Campy comes out with that thing, you guys will line up to buy it. You’re too gullible to resist. I mean, you’re paying them money to wear advertisements on your body! Why wouldn’t you fork over some more money for something you don’t need but believe it’s chic to have because your racing idol has it?
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Originally Posted by Vickie
Bah, moan for all you want, but when Campy comes out with that thing, you guys will line up to buy it. You’re too gullible to resist. I mean, you’re paying them money to wear advertisements on your body! Why wouldn’t you fork over some more money for something you don’t need but believe it’s chic to have because your racing idol has it?
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Originally Posted by lotek
edit: I believe it's a wireless system for the most part, no cables or wires
from brifters to derailleurs). Individually coded to avoid interference.
Can you imagine if a pro initiated a shift and half the peloton shifted?
bloody murder would ensue.
Marty
from brifters to derailleurs). Individually coded to avoid interference.
Can you imagine if a pro initiated a shift and half the peloton shifted?
bloody murder would ensue.
Marty
oh i can see it know: electronic jammers in the team car lock all the other teams into the 53-11 at the base of a climb.
if you ask me it goes against the spirit of the bicycle. i dont like the thought of ANYTHING on the bike not being directly human powered and controled. you want the machine to work for you get a mtorcylce.
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Originally Posted by roadgator
oh i can see it know: electronic jammers in the team car lock all the other teams into the 53-11 at the base of a climb.
if you ask me it goes against the spirit of the bicycle. i dont like the thought of ANYTHING on the bike not being directly human powered and controled. you want the machine to work for you get a mtorcylce.
if you ask me it goes against the spirit of the bicycle. i dont like the thought of ANYTHING on the bike not being directly human powered and controled. you want the machine to work for you get a mtorcylce.
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Bring it on, I love tech stuff. Can I join the OCP club if I order one of these???
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I'm waiting for the bicycle drivetrain that utlizes strong force to transmit power from the cranks to the wheel.
"Shimano is pleased to announce the introduction of the GluonDrive."
"Shimano is pleased to announce the introduction of the GluonDrive."
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Gee, Maybe they could figure out some kind of electric mechanism to make the wheels go round without pedaling, this way you wouldnt have to use your legs either..
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Originally Posted by ajst2duk
Bring it on, I love tech stuff. Can I join the OCP club if I order one of these???
Flat ground you say? Doesn't matter to a true OCPer they still need the latest stuff even if they don't need a 20T cog in between their 19T and 21T
P.S. I like tech stuff too....otherwise I'd be in the SS/FG forum.
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For some reason I doubt this device would need more than a 9v battery or two.
If they know what they are doing, they should have it use standardized size batteries so replacements are easy to get.
For racers, then they can just go buy some freaking lithiums for every race if they are that worried about it.
If they know what they are doing, they should have it use standardized size batteries so replacements are easy to get.
For racers, then they can just go buy some freaking lithiums for every race if they are that worried about it.
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Originally Posted by catatonic
If they know what they are doing, they should have it use standardized size batteries so replacements are easy to get.
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Originally Posted by khuon
I'm waiting for the bicycle drivetrain that utlizes strong force to transmit power from the cranks to the wheel.
"Shimano is pleased to announce the introduction of the GluonDrive."
"Shimano is pleased to announce the introduction of the GluonDrive."
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Originally Posted by gcasillo
I, for one, welcome our new electronically shifting overlords!