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Rides4Beer 03-05-19 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by OUGrad05 (Post 20777810)
What brand 28mm tire? I'm going to run GP5000s on whatever I decide to get, preferably the 28mm, just wondering if I won't have to go with the 25c since those tires will ride and roll wider on a rim that wide...

I'm wondering if my LBS can shed some light on the tire mounting issue.

I just mounted 25mm GP5000s on 21c rims and they measured 27.1mm at 85psi. I laid them out in the sun for a bit and had no issues mounting them with just my hands. :thumb:

AlgaeHater 03-10-19 07:44 PM

I mounted 28mm Vittoria Corsa G. Mounted easily without the use of tire levers. Just need to remember to place the bead on the inside track and pull along the circumference to build enough slack to mount with your thumbs and palms.

If if you’re having problems mounting clinchers on AR series wheels, then you’re doing something wrong.

igs417 05-01-19 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by OUGrad05 (Post 20777810)
What brand 28mm tire? I'm going to run GP5000s on whatever I decide to get, preferably the 28mm

Did you get those AR41 or AR41x in the end? Did you set them up tubeless with GP5000TL? How did it go?

AR41 DB are my top contender as well, but I’m unable to find any user experience regarding ease of setting up tubeless online and Reynolds support is kinda mysterious on the topic. I would like to set them up with Conti GP5000TL 28c, but I don’t want to learn new curse words after purchase of 1.200 EUR wheelset.

OUGrad05 05-01-19 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by igs417 (Post 20909262)
Did you get those AR41 or AR41x in the end? Did you set them up tubeless with GP5000TL? How did it go?

AR41 DB are my top contender as well, but I’m unable to find any user experience regarding ease of setting up tubeless online and Reynolds support is kinda mysterious on the topic. I would like to set them up with Conti GP5000TL 28c, but I don’t want to learn new curse words after purchase of 1.200 EUR wheelset.

I went the cheaper (AR) route after some additional reading and put 28c GP5000s on them. So far I'm very very pleased with that purchase. In combination with my winter training and the wheel/tire combo I'm significantly faster than I was in the fall. At some point when I buy a racier frame, I'll buy a set of even better wheels, but these are wide, which helps with aero, they've got a decent cross section but don't catch wind, so overall very pleased.

igs417 05-01-19 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by OUGrad05 (Post 20909279)
I went the cheaper route after some additional reading and put 28c GP5000s on them. So far I'm very very pleased with that purchase. In combination with my winter training and the wheel/tire combo I'm significantly faster than I was in the fall. At some point when I buy a racier frame, I'll buy a set of even better wheels, but these are wide, which helps with aero, they've got a decent cross section but don't catch wind, so overall very pleased.

I'm curious, what wheelset did you get?

OUGrad05 05-01-19 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by igs417 (Post 20909285)
I'm curious, what wheelset did you get?

Reynold AR41

igs417 05-01-19 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by OUGrad05 (Post 20909291)
Reynold AR41

Yeah, now I see it. :-) You put GP5000 tubeless on them?

OUGrad05 05-01-19 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by igs417 (Post 20909293)
Yeah, now I see it. :-) You put GP5000 tubeless on them?

Not running tubeless, though I believe they're tubeless ready.

igs417 05-01-19 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by OUGrad05 (Post 20909294)
Not running tubeless, though I believe they're tubeless ready.

No mounting difficulties, I assume?

OUGrad05 05-01-19 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by igs417 (Post 20909301)
No mounting difficulties, I assume?

No.

igs417 05-01-19 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by OUGrad05 (Post 20909305)
No.

Thanks a lot mate! :beer:

OUGrad05 05-01-19 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by igs417 (Post 20909309)
Thanks a lot mate! :beer:

You bet, we gotta help eachother out on here. If you get a set let me know what you think.

igs417 05-02-19 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by OUGrad05 (Post 20909315)
You bet, we gotta help eachother out on here. If you get a set let me know what you think.

Sure thing. You measured real width of those 28mm Contis on that rims? How are they stacking up with AR41 30 mm external width? All nicely lined up and aero?

OUGrad05 05-02-19 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by igs417 (Post 20911229)
Sure thing. You measured real width of those 28mm Contis on that rims? How are they stacking up with AR41 30 mm external width? All nicely lined up and aero?

Yeah about perfect, the tires in my case turned out to be 29.5mm, I think the wheel is 30.5? So decent shot at re-attachment of the air.

Johnny Rad 05-03-19 01:55 PM

I had the same clincher tire (Schwalbe One) mounting difficulties with 2018 / 2019 Reynolds tubeless-ready Assault rims.

Appears from this thread that some tires may be easier to mount than others, but I didn't sign-up for changing tire brands.

After numerous Reynolds wheels (4?) over the past 10yrs, I sold this set and won't be back until compatibility has been improved.


Originally Posted by Sojodave (Post 20776400)
The first wheelset is super duper incredibly hard to mount tires, and the second one is impossible.


Originally Posted by Sojodave (Post 20777181)
I have Reynolds carbon rims that are tubeless ready. I just got Continental 5000 clinchers I spent about two hours getting them on. My thumbs are still soar. I'm scared to death to get a flat on the road.


Originally Posted by shoota (Post 20776933)
My buddy got these on a used bike he bought and will be selling them because there is no way to do road side maintenance on this wheelset. The tires are just flipping impossible to get on/off.


Esthetic 05-03-19 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by shoota (Post 20776933)
Found the difference in five seconds.
  • Features Sapim Cx-sprint Bladed Spokes With Lightweight Alloy Nipples
  • Features Sapim Sprint Spokes With Brass Nipples
Alloy nipples are lighter so the ARx is lighter overall but IME they are not worth it. Once they start breaking it's a downhill slide. You'll wind up having the whole wheelset rebuilt with brass nipples anyway.



+1. My buddy got these on a used bike he bought and will be selling them because there is no way to do road side maintenance on this wheelset. The tires are just flipping impossible to get on/off.

Same thing with the Reynolds Strikes I have. I had that issue running clincher with a tube. Then I finally went tubeless, my mistake did Hutchinson Galaktics,got a puncture that wont seal....nightmare lol.

So go tubeless, with a tire with decent puncture belt and you should be ok. Oh...and stick to Stans , stay the hell away from Finish Line sealant. That sealant is garbage.

WhyFi 05-03-19 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Johnny Rad (Post 20912894)
I had the same clincher tire (Schwalbe One) mounting difficulties with 2018 Reynolds tubeless-ready Assault rims.

Appears from this thread that some tires may be easier to mount than others, but I didn't sign-up for changing tire brands.

After numerous Reynolds wheels (4?) over the past 10yrs, I sold this set and won't be back until compatibility has been improved.

I have Assaults and haven't had an issue with Schwalbes (S-One/G-One Speed, G-One All-around) - on with bare hands, off with a single lever. :foo:

NoWhammies 05-03-19 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by Johnny Rad (Post 20912894)
After numerous Reynolds wheels (4?) over the past 10yrs, I sold this set and won't be back until compatibility has been improved.

Prior to moving to my new bike and disc brakes, I had Reynolds Assaults on my bike. I rode them with Schwalbe tubeless tyres and never really had any issues getting the tyres on or off. Looks like compatibility has been improved :)

Johnny Rad 05-03-19 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 20912951)
I have Assaults and haven't had an issue with Schwalbes (S-One/G-One Speed, G-One All-around) - on with bare hands, off with a single lever. :foo:


Originally Posted by NoWhammies (Post 20913390)
Prior to moving to my new bike and disc brakes, I had Reynolds Assaults on my bike. I rode them with Schwalbe tubeless tyres and never really had any issues getting the tyres on or off. Looks like compatibility has been improved :)

Pre-tubeless Reynolds Attacks and Assaults were a joy to mount Schwalbe One, Evo, ZX, etc clinchers on... just thumbs.

Then I bought Reynolds’ latest 2018 / 2019 tubeless-ready Assaults and broke irons mounting the same Schwalbe One clinchers.

WhyFi 05-04-19 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Johnny Rad (Post 20913414)
Pre-tubeless Reynolds Attacks and Assaults were a joy to mount Schwalbe One, Evo, ZX, etc clinchers on... just thumbs.

Then I bought Reynolds’ latest 2018 / 2019 tubeless-ready Assaults and broke irons mounting the same Schwalbe One clinchers.

Mine are tubeless.

ingo 05-04-19 03:38 PM

I bought a set of the AR41, mounted a Vittoria Corsa Speed tubeless on the front and a Hutchinson Fusion 5 Performance tubeless on the back. No problem with either, the Hutch went on without using levers. Both sealed the bead on the first try with soap and water. First ride the front hub was making noise, a scratching sound for part of each rotation. After the ride the sound was still there, with noticeable drag on the hub when spun off the fork. The noise and drag increased when there was a load on the wheel just rolling across a smooth floor. The rear hub had a lot of freehub drag, to the point where the crank would rotate when the rear wheel was spinning on the workstand. This is unacceptable for a new set of wheels, returned to Reynolds for refund. Maybe the 41X hubs are better.

NoWhammies 05-04-19 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Johnny Rad (Post 20913414)
Pre-tubeless Reynolds Attacks and Assaults were a joy to mount Schwalbe One, Evo, ZX, etc clinchers on... just thumbs.

Then I bought Reynolds’ latest 2018 / 2019 tubeless-ready Assaults and broke irons mounting the same Schwalbe One clinchers.

Ah. Maybe they changed the mold then? Mine were from 2017. I rode them with Schwalbe One tubeless with Stan's.

I liked the Reynolds wheels so much I wanted to put a pair on my new bike except the LBS didn't have any with disc brakes and they told me none of the disc brake rims were tubeless compatible. So I ended up going with a custom build Boyd wheel set. Couldn't be happier.

bruce19 05-05-19 06:51 AM

I recently went to Mavic Ksyrium Elite UST. First time with any tubeless wheels. Totally blown away with the way they roll and their smoothness.


Fox Farm 05-05-19 07:11 AM

Not to sound rude but save your money and buy some Boyd wheels.

WhyFi 05-05-19 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Fox Farm (Post 20914723)
Not to sound rude but save your money and buy some Boyd wheels.

Which? That I see, the most comparable Boyd's are ~$1600 - that's not a savings.


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