Why is Rapha so divisive?
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with 0.08 posts a day, I guess you definition of ton of time is 4 or 5 posts not aligning with your viewpoint.
If you consider responsible purchases morally superior or someone who raced for couple years and talking about it a racing superstar you must be an interesting person to discuss with in a bar of you can’t talk about any previous life experiences or knowledges on responsible consumerism.
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FoxConn is contracted...because Apple can literally demand a complete change in say iPhone design/manufacture...and FoxConn can start turning it out en masse in 24 hours....in large part because there are no labor laws; in large part because that kind of manufacturing expertise exists there and not here--and people are desperate enough for work they'll take it. FoxConn is inhumane to its workers--but they are insanely agile: they'd make Henry Ford weep with what they can do...and get away with doing to workers...
The value of the parts in an iPhone is about $250USD to make...all the rest of the retail price is paying the bills and profit. Hence why Apple is so absurdly rich.
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Would cost much more than that.
FoxConn is contracted...because Apple can literally demand a complete change in say iPhone design/manufacture...and FoxConn can start turning it out en masse in 24 hours....in large part because there are no labor laws; in large part because that kind of manufacturing expertise exists there and not here--and people are desperate enough for work they'll take it. FoxConn is inhumane to its workers--but they are insanely agile: they'd make Henry Ford weep with what they can do...and get away with doing to workers...
The value of the parts in an iPhone is about $250USD to make...all the rest of the retail price is paying the bills and profit. Hence why Apple is so absurdly rich.
FoxConn is contracted...because Apple can literally demand a complete change in say iPhone design/manufacture...and FoxConn can start turning it out en masse in 24 hours....in large part because there are no labor laws; in large part because that kind of manufacturing expertise exists there and not here--and people are desperate enough for work they'll take it. FoxConn is inhumane to its workers--but they are insanely agile: they'd make Henry Ford weep with what they can do...and get away with doing to workers...
The value of the parts in an iPhone is about $250USD to make...all the rest of the retail price is paying the bills and profit. Hence why Apple is so absurdly rich.
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« ton of time »
with 0.08 posts a day, I guess you definition of ton of time is 4 or 5 posts not aligning with your viewpoint.
If you consider responsible purchases morally superior or someone who raced for couple years and talking about it a racing superstar you must be an interesting person to discuss with in a bar of you can’t talk about any previous life experiences or knowledges on responsible consumerism.
with 0.08 posts a day, I guess you definition of ton of time is 4 or 5 posts not aligning with your viewpoint.
If you consider responsible purchases morally superior or someone who raced for couple years and talking about it a racing superstar you must be an interesting person to discuss with in a bar of you can’t talk about any previous life experiences or knowledges on responsible consumerism.
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This would be the Elon Musk who threatened to pull his entire assembly plant from Alameda County because he didn't want to abide by their COVID guidelines? What a prince.
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Don't get me wrong...Tesla's EV project is a cool bit of engineering and better for the planet.
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It's also the same Elon Musk who, thus far, has been able to raise arbitrary sums of money from the capital markets and does not need to make money selling anything. Yet. Well, not from selling cars or batteries or whatever else. He's selling a story and an image like a mastermind.
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Elon can be an utter twit....but he is a razor-sharp-car-salesman, and I mean that in the slightly pejorative sense of "car salesman". The reason he can have those high profit margins, is in no small part because (we) taxpayers are literally paying it. His Tesla facilities have gotten massive millions- and billions-dollar tax breaks from cities and counties and states and the federal government--because he's a "job creator". Specifically things like property taxes--that pay specifically for things like firefighters and roads and so on....when the property tax pool is dry and there's no money to pay for paving roads, that is why....BTW can say the same thing about churches too, since they and their lands are tax-exempt; which causes massive problems in places like Utah where 50% of city land is Mormon Church property.
Don't get me wrong...Tesla's EV project is a cool bit of engineering and better for the planet.
Don't get me wrong...Tesla's EV project is a cool bit of engineering and better for the planet.
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You play pro level golf, except that you lose your ball a lot??
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It's also the same Elon Musk who, thus far, has been able to raise arbitrary sums of money from the capital markets and does not need to make money selling anything. Yet. Well, not from selling cars or batteries or whatever else. He's selling a story and an image like a mastermind.
https://teslainvestor.blogspot.com/2...-tesla-is.html
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Elon can be an utter twit....but he is a razor-sharp-car-salesman, and I mean that in the slightly pejorative sense of "car salesman". The reason he can have those high profit margins, is in no small part because (we) taxpayers are literally paying it. His Tesla facilities have gotten massive millions- and billions-dollar tax breaks from cities and counties and states and the federal government--because he's a "job creator". Specifically things like property taxes--that pay specifically for things like firefighters and roads and so on....when the property tax pool is dry and there's no money to pay for paving roads, that is why....BTW can say the same thing about churches too, since they and their lands are tax-exempt; which causes massive problems in places like Utah where 50% of city land is Mormon Church property.
Don't get me wrong...Tesla's EV project is a cool bit of engineering and better for the planet.
Don't get me wrong...Tesla's EV project is a cool bit of engineering and better for the planet.
and many of the car manufacturers went bankrupt or got bailed out by the tax payers in their history.
I guess tax breaks is mandatory to be able to successfully start an automobile company these days.
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I'm not really into watches, but once wondered into a fancy store (Cherry Creek Mall, in Denver) while the wife and daughter were shopping for clothes. The manager chatted me up, and I asked "Which is the most expensive watch in the shop?" He led me over to a special display, got out his key and unlocked, reached in for a watch, and held it out for me to examine while saying "This one is $122,000." I did not dare touch the watch.
I believe it may have been a Patek, but I do recall with certainty that it was a tourbillion. I don't know what that means, but that's what it was.
I believe it may have been a Patek, but I do recall with certainty that it was a tourbillion. I don't know what that means, but that's what it was.
https://www.livemint.com/Leisure/lPl...g-watches.html
Fully handmade with obsessive attention to detail.
Are you still able to get parts for servicing your watches, given the alleged crackdown on spares availability from the Swatch group?
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I would argue setting up a factory and offering employment to people who need it the most does more to make the world a better place than pontificating on the interwebz.
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Unfortunately, this is because NOBODY is still making the parts. BUT, America used to have thousands of watchmakers, in every neigborhood of every city and most towns. They've almost all retired, but people have acquired their parts stocks and you'll find an amazing amount of New Old Stock material on Ebay. There are also a couple vendors who have large stocks of parts acquired from watchmaker's estates, and if you have deep pockets, you can find parts at some of the supply houses like O Frei.
But most of the watches don't need new parts. A surprisingly high percentage just need cleaning - old oils congeal, dirt gets in. I figure, decades ago, some guy's watch started gaining time, so he went to a watchmaker who said he could service it and get it running accurately again for $50. "Fifty Dollars!" cried the owner, "I can get one of these quartz watches for $10!", so he threw it in a drawer during the Reagan Administration. 30-40 years pass, the guy dies or moves into The Home, and his kids sell off his stuff, including an old watch that doesn't run. "Maybe it needs a new battery?" they think, knowing nothing of mechanical watches.
There - that's more than you ever wanted to know about bottomfeeding American vintage watches.
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I don’t know the numbers but oil subsidies for job creation are significant too.
and many of the car manufacturers went bankrupt or got bailed out by the tax payers in their history.
I guess tax breaks is mandatory to be able to successfully start an automobile company these days.
and many of the car manufacturers went bankrupt or got bailed out by the tax payers in their history.
I guess tax breaks is mandatory to be able to successfully start an automobile company these days.
When an NFL or NBA arena is built.....they not only get tax breaks--there's often municipal bonds to cover construction. Which if that sounds desperate and absurd given the profitability of the NFL and NBA....that is because it is. Especially given that once built, most arena employees are all PT on-call AND min-wage without any benefits for sporting events.
Something repetitive and trivial, so we're changing the topic to something more interesting
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What do you have against people in developing countries bettering their lives and trying to get out of poverty?
I would argue setting up a factory and offering employment to people who need it the most does more to make the world a better place than pontificating on the interwebz.
I would argue setting up a factory and offering employment to people who need it the most does more to make the world a better place than pontificating on the interwebz.
companies should offer a descend salary for the work of their employees, local or abroad. Customers should be ready to pay the extra price.
same principle between Walmart offering minimum wage and Costco offering over $20 an hour for their employees.





