I know that this has been discussed in an earlier thread. I have four pair of road shoes with X series cleats and two pair of pedals on two bikes, X2. Changing to some Zero or Light action or Time, etc is an expensive conversion. Anyone know where to find some NOS or knockoff copies of the X series cleats Since Wahoo/Speedplay decided to cancel them?

thanks folk

Expensive: https://www.amazon.com/Speedplay-130.../dp/B004V33HMA
Less expensive: https://www.velopro.com/product/spee...s-390059-1.htm

I'm not sure that they have been dropped completely. Excel sports has them from time to time, but they sell out fast. I bought 4 sets for $55 each on ebay.

I get the problem with the cost of changing over. We had 6 sets of X pedals, and I resisted changing out. However, the zeros are actually better, and some of our X pedals are quite old now. So we’re phasing out, My wife is using the best of our remaining x pedals, and I’ve got zeros on half of my bikes now. Next time we need new cleats, will probably be the end of the remaining X’s. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet

Yea, i know... The Zeros are an improvement. I don't have any of the knee problems that made the X series desirable for some. When i switched to them in 1999, I was tired replacing Look cleats numerous times a year and figured that in 5 years I had bought a set of X2 for price that I was paying for Look cleats. I am just bothered by having to bit the bullet... I may try some Time Expresso 10s. Have not used Time since 1991 but I like the look of the pedal platform.

Eh - with the announcement that SRAM just picked up Time pedals (albeit the changeover is slated for like next year) I would kind of wait to see what their longer term vision is for the product. Only took them 2 years to drop all Powertap products as an example (although they will have service parts for the foreseeable future).

I know it's entirely possible to go through Look cleats more often but they aren't super expensive and to my knowledge they still support legacy cleats like the Deltas. I could actually buy a set of new cleats for my first clipless pedal system I bought in 1987. If long term availability is a concern then Look or Shimano are really the options that should be considered IMHO

I think many just wish that at the very least Wahoo would come out and provide some level of guidance on their plans for the Speedplay lineup.

That's what I have on my 1984 Guerciotti.

Quite honestly I think Wahoo had ideas and has just gotten overwhelmed with all of the issues that have come up with their core products during the pandemic. Speedplay always seemed like a back burner kind of thing. They also seemed pretty intent form the beginning that they were going to burn off legacy stuff. Don't remember where I saw it but somewhere I read they flat out intended on eliminating the X pedal system and go only with the Zero style pedal.

They did discuss bringing the Frog back though and that has definitely not materialized at this point.

Keep in mind they bought Speedplay to build on tech. They are moving up and forward with it at some point...not hanging on old product. They want in the power pedal game. Remember the early work on the Vector was done using a Speedplay platform.

Sounds reasonable. Though what Wahoo doesn't want to do, is be so uninvolved or for too long, that any existing Speedplay platform loyalty and goodwill they had, evaporates. Even the products they continue to market (eg. Zeros), used to be available in more options. Multiple colors for the matchy-match folks, and various spindle lengths to appease the bike-fitters out there. At least online, those options can't be found. Not sure, but don't see their shim or rebuild kits available either (online mind you).

Yeah on this on I am not going to bother trying to interpret what they want to do so much. I personally think they had a great opportunity and are kind of letting it evaporate with inaction. Who knows. For all I know they have tons of projects going but have been hitting road blocks. The fact that they aren't super forward with updates on the product line leads me to think it will be slowly dying out of the old stuff.

On the dealer platform they show only Zero, Zero Aero, Zero ChroMo, and Ultra Light Action as the only pedals. Cleats are only Zero walkable and Ultra Light Action. No other cleats, pedals or accessories.