Tubeless road tires?
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Tubeless road tires?
I'd like some recos for slick tread 25mm tubeless tires (up to 28mm is ok too). My favorite clinchers have been Michelin Pro 4s and Conti 4000 or 5000s.
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I have continental 5000 TL on my bike and they work well. I use 28mm on carbon rims with 18 mm internal width. The key to tubeless is making sure the tape job is good and also having the right tools. I highly recommend getting a valve core removal tool (cheap on amazon). I take the tires out of the box and let them stretch out for a day or two. Also, know how to use the inner channel to get the tire on. Once you do it, it will be easy.
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I have Specialized S-Works Turbo Rapidair (yes their names are stupidly long) in 30c, they are great. My local shop is a Specialized dealer, otherwise I would probably be on GP5000 TLs or the new GP5000 S TR.
Note I would suggest 28c not 25c, the smaller the tire the higher the pressure the more likelihood of tubeless leaks that won't seal. I feel I am about as small as I want to go on 30c, so far every leak has sealed before I ran out of air in the tire, but I had some close calls. A 30c has 50% more air volume than a 25c thanks to r-squared. At higher pressures you will also lose a bunch of air at the start which is at too high a pressure to get any kind of seal .. its a double lose: less air and more wasted air.
Note I would suggest 28c not 25c, the smaller the tire the higher the pressure the more likelihood of tubeless leaks that won't seal. I feel I am about as small as I want to go on 30c, so far every leak has sealed before I ran out of air in the tire, but I had some close calls. A 30c has 50% more air volume than a 25c thanks to r-squared. At higher pressures you will also lose a bunch of air at the start which is at too high a pressure to get any kind of seal .. its a double lose: less air and more wasted air.
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I have Specialized S-Works Turbo Rapidair (yes their names are stupidly long) in 30c, they are great. My local shop is a Specialized dealer, otherwise I would probably be on GP5000 TLs or the new GP5000 S TR.
Note I would suggest 28c not 25c, the smaller the tire the higher the pressure the more likelihood of tubeless leaks that won't seal. I feel I am about as small as I want to go on 30c, so far every leak has sealed before I ran out of air in the tire, but I had some close calls. A 30c has 50% more air volume than a 25c thanks to r-squared. At higher pressures you will also lose a bunch of air at the start which is at too high a pressure to get any kind of seal .. its a double lose: less air and more wasted air.
Note I would suggest 28c not 25c, the smaller the tire the higher the pressure the more likelihood of tubeless leaks that won't seal. I feel I am about as small as I want to go on 30c, so far every leak has sealed before I ran out of air in the tire, but I had some close calls. A 30c has 50% more air volume than a 25c thanks to r-squared. At higher pressures you will also lose a bunch of air at the start which is at too high a pressure to get any kind of seal .. its a double lose: less air and more wasted air.
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I went from 25mm Hutchinson Fusion5 All Season to 700 x 28 and found a nice improvement in comfort, handling, and even top speed on a downhill I do frequently
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I like the Conti GP 5K on my Domane. They are 32's but the skinnier ones are probably bonzer too. I had to use my old man gorilla strength to get them on tho. They were tight !!
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My favorite so far are the IRC tires. I love how the Schwalbes rode but they were simply too fragile.
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Which? The previous Pro One had a reputation as such, but I haven't seen any similar complaints about the current Pro One Evo Addix - that was one of the main issues that they addressed. In my experience, the POEA were neither fragile nor fast-wearing; none of my rear tires met a premature end, due to cut or puncture, and all made it to ~3000 miles (rear), which is pretty decent for me.
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The previous Pro One- fast and soft riding but prob just too light. The IRC Pro formula was fantastic. Now I'm also trying another IRC (I'll have to go look at the model) but also fast and no cuts or abrasions so pretty hard wearing. I am sure they are both heavier than the previous Pro One but the ride quality and resistance to cuts and punctures is excellent. I'll have to try the new Schwalbes at some point. The old ones were pretty much a race tire only, for my use.
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Whew, at least there's a definitive answer.
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I have 5000TLs on two road wheelsets. These tires offer great grip, great durability, high resistance to cuts, and are fast rolling. Terrific tires. They mounted easily with my thumbs on one wheelset, but... the other one was so tight that I gave up and took them into a shop. I've done maybe 12-15 tubeless setups myself and I've never seen a tire/rim combo that tight, I couldn't even get one bead on.
I've heard the 5000TRs are more ETRTO compliant and easier to mount. I've never tried them though.
One tip: buy tires from European sources. For some reason, tires are always very expensive domestically.
I've heard the 5000TRs are more ETRTO compliant and easier to mount. I've never tried them though.
One tip: buy tires from European sources. For some reason, tires are always very expensive domestically.
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I have 5000TLs on two road wheelsets. These tires offer great grip, great durability, high resistance to cuts, and are fast rolling. Terrific tires. They mounted easily with my thumbs on one wheelset, but... the other one was so tight that I gave up and took them into a shop. I've done maybe 12-15 tubeless setups myself and I've never seen a tire/rim combo that tight, I couldn't even get one bead on.
I've heard the 5000TRs are more ETRTO compliant and easier to mount. I've never tried them though.
One tip: buy tires from European sources. For some reason, tires are always very expensive domestically.
I've heard the 5000TRs are more ETRTO compliant and easier to mount. I've never tried them though.
One tip: buy tires from European sources. For some reason, tires are always very expensive domestically.
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My rear tire is near end of life so was looking for some new ones recently. Often the best deal is in the country the tires are being made.. For example GP5000 S TR are now $66 from bike24.com (Germany, home of Conti), and are $82 from Merlin (UK). Plus, in-stock at bike24.com and not in-stock at Merlin.
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According to Trek's website I can run up to 28mm on my 2021 Madone...(although tbh there seems to be enough clearance everywhere around my 25's that I'm sure I could use 30-32?)
Anyway, thinking of make the move to tubeless and the readily available 28mm product is Goodyear Eagle F1... any good?
Anyway, thinking of make the move to tubeless and the readily available 28mm product is Goodyear Eagle F1... any good?
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My rear tire is near end of life so was looking for some new ones recently. Often the best deal is in the country the tires are being made.. For example GP5000 S TR are now $66 from bike24.com (Germany, home of Conti), and are $82 from Merlin (UK). Plus, in-stock at bike24.com and not in-stock at Merlin.
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According to Trek's website I can run up to 28mm on my 2021 Madone...(although tbh there seems to be enough clearance everywhere around my 25's that I'm sure I could use 30-32?)
Anyway, thinking of make the move to tubeless and the readily available 28mm product is Goodyear Eagle F1... any good?
Anyway, thinking of make the move to tubeless and the readily available 28mm product is Goodyear Eagle F1... any good?
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I have 5000TLs on two road wheelsets. These tires offer great grip, great durability, high resistance to cuts, and are fast rolling. Terrific tires. They mounted easily with my thumbs on one wheelset, but... the other one was so tight that I gave up and took them into a shop. I've done maybe 12-15 tubeless setups myself and I've never seen a tire/rim combo that tight, I couldn't even get one bead on.
I've heard the 5000TRs are more ETRTO compliant and easier to mount. I've never tried them though.
One tip: buy tires from European sources. For some reason, tires are always very expensive domestically.
I've heard the 5000TRs are more ETRTO compliant and easier to mount. I've never tried them though.
One tip: buy tires from European sources. For some reason, tires are always very expensive domestically.
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The Zipps have been cake with every tire that I've used on them, thus far (though I guess that's only 3 different sets).