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Old 02-14-22, 03:06 AM
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Tubeless road tires?

I'd like some recos for slick tread 25mm tubeless tires (up to 28mm is ok too). My favorite clinchers have been Michelin Pro 4s and Conti 4000 or 5000s.
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I have continental 5000 TL on my bike and they work well. I use 28mm on carbon rims with 18 mm internal width. The key to tubeless is making sure the tape job is good and also having the right tools. I highly recommend getting a valve core removal tool (cheap on amazon). I take the tires out of the box and let them stretch out for a day or two. Also, know how to use the inner channel to get the tire on. Once you do it, it will be easy.
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I have Specialized S-Works Turbo Rapidair (yes their names are stupidly long) in 30c, they are great. My local shop is a Specialized dealer, otherwise I would probably be on GP5000 TLs or the new GP5000 S TR.

Note I would suggest 28c not 25c, the smaller the tire the higher the pressure the more likelihood of tubeless leaks that won't seal. I feel I am about as small as I want to go on 30c, so far every leak has sealed before I ran out of air in the tire, but I had some close calls. A 30c has 50% more air volume than a 25c thanks to r-squared. At higher pressures you will also lose a bunch of air at the start which is at too high a pressure to get any kind of seal .. its a double lose: less air and more wasted air.

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Originally Posted by bikeme
I'd like some recos for slick tread 25mm tubeless tires (up to 28mm is ok too). My favorite clinchers have been Michelin Pro 4s and Conti 4000 or 5000s.
Your favorite road tubeless tires
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Originally Posted by scottfsmith
I have Specialized S-Works Turbo Rapidair (yes their names are stupidly long) in 30c, they are great. My local shop is a Specialized dealer, otherwise I would probably be on GP5000 TLs or the new GP5000 S TR.

Note I would suggest 28c not 25c, the smaller the tire the higher the pressure the more likelihood of tubeless leaks that won't seal. I feel I am about as small as I want to go on 30c, so far every leak has sealed before I ran out of air in the tire, but I had some close calls. A 30c has 50% more air volume than a 25c thanks to r-squared. At higher pressures you will also lose a bunch of air at the start which is at too high a pressure to get any kind of seal .. its a double lose: less air and more wasted air.
I second this recommendation; running these on both road bikes in 26 and 28 mm. They seat easily, roll and handle well.
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If you like Conti GP 5000 with tubes, you'll love the tubeless versions. The newer S TR is even better than the TL.
I would also recommend trying 28mm if they fit.
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Schwalbe Pro One TLE for the win
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I went from 25mm Hutchinson Fusion5 All Season to 700 x 28 and found a nice improvement in comfort, handling, and even top speed on a downhill I do frequently
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I like the Conti GP 5K on my Domane. They are 32's but the skinnier ones are probably bonzer too. I had to use my old man gorilla strength to get them on tho. They were tight !!
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Schwalbe Pro One TLE for the win
Second.

I have these on two bikes, and they're my favorite.
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Originally Posted by bikeme
I'd like some recos for slick tread 25mm tubeless tires (up to 28mm is ok too). My favorite clinchers have been Michelin Pro 4s and Conti 4000 or 5000s.
May as well start with tubeless versions of your current favourites then?
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My favorite so far are the IRC tires. I love how the Schwalbes rode but they were simply too fragile.
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Originally Posted by Chandne
I love how the Schwalbes rode but they were simply too fragile.
Which? The previous Pro One had a reputation as such, but I haven't seen any similar complaints about the current Pro One Evo Addix - that was one of the main issues that they addressed. In my experience, the POEA were neither fragile nor fast-wearing; none of my rear tires met a premature end, due to cut or puncture, and all made it to ~3000 miles (rear), which is pretty decent for me.
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The previous Pro One- fast and soft riding but prob just too light. The IRC Pro formula was fantastic. Now I'm also trying another IRC (I'll have to go look at the model) but also fast and no cuts or abrasions so pretty hard wearing. I am sure they are both heavier than the previous Pro One but the ride quality and resistance to cuts and punctures is excellent. I'll have to try the new Schwalbes at some point. The old ones were pretty much a race tire only, for my use.
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Whew, at least there's a definitive answer.
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I have 5000TLs on two road wheelsets. These tires offer great grip, great durability, high resistance to cuts, and are fast rolling. Terrific tires. They mounted easily with my thumbs on one wheelset, but... the other one was so tight that I gave up and took them into a shop. I've done maybe 12-15 tubeless setups myself and I've never seen a tire/rim combo that tight, I couldn't even get one bead on.

I've heard the 5000TRs are more ETRTO compliant and easier to mount. I've never tried them though.

One tip: buy tires from European sources. For some reason, tires are always very expensive domestically.
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
I have 5000TLs on two road wheelsets. These tires offer great grip, great durability, high resistance to cuts, and are fast rolling. Terrific tires. They mounted easily with my thumbs on one wheelset, but... the other one was so tight that I gave up and took them into a shop. I've done maybe 12-15 tubeless setups myself and I've never seen a tire/rim combo that tight, I couldn't even get one bead on.

I've heard the 5000TRs are more ETRTO compliant and easier to mount. I've never tried them though.

One tip: buy tires from European sources. For some reason, tires are always very expensive domestically.
+1 on that. Merlin Cycle it is! 50$ less per tire than any of my LBS and stores across Canada as well... I always encourage local business, but the price difference sometimes is just too much. They don't price match neither (I do ask!).
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My rear tire is near end of life so was looking for some new ones recently. Often the best deal is in the country the tires are being made.. For example GP5000 S TR are now $66 from bike24.com (Germany, home of Conti), and are $82 from Merlin (UK). Plus, in-stock at bike24.com and not in-stock at Merlin.
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I'm running the Schwalbe Pro One Evo 28mm and i really like them, on Carbon wheels
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According to Trek's website I can run up to 28mm on my 2021 Madone...(although tbh there seems to be enough clearance everywhere around my 25's that I'm sure I could use 30-32?)
Anyway, thinking of make the move to tubeless and the readily available 28mm product is Goodyear Eagle F1... any good?
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Originally Posted by scottfsmith
My rear tire is near end of life so was looking for some new ones recently. Often the best deal is in the country the tires are being made.. For example GP5000 S TR are now $66 from bike24.com (Germany, home of Conti), and are $82 from Merlin (UK). Plus, in-stock at bike24.com and not in-stock at Merlin.
Wow! I missed that $66 sale from bike24.com! They are OOS now. Those are the tubeless tires I want to try on my Light Bicycle carbon rims.
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Originally Posted by Overdraft
According to Trek's website I can run up to 28mm on my 2021 Madone...(although tbh there seems to be enough clearance everywhere around my 25's that I'm sure I could use 30-32?)
Anyway, thinking of make the move to tubeless and the readily available 28mm product is Goodyear Eagle F1... any good?
Haven't used the myself, but the word on the street was that they had really disappointing rolling resistance results.
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
I have 5000TLs on two road wheelsets. These tires offer great grip, great durability, high resistance to cuts, and are fast rolling. Terrific tires. They mounted easily with my thumbs on one wheelset, but... the other one was so tight that I gave up and took them into a shop. I've done maybe 12-15 tubeless setups myself and I've never seen a tire/rim combo that tight, I couldn't even get one bead on.

I've heard the 5000TRs are more ETRTO compliant and easier to mount. I've never tried them though.

One tip: buy tires from European sources. For some reason, tires are always very expensive domestically.
I can confirm that the 5000 S TR's are much easier to mount on Zipp 303 S wheels than the 5000 TL's have been on other wheelsets I own. I don't know how much of this is the tire vs the wheel. (My tubeless CX tires seemed easier to mount on the Zipps as well)
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
I can confirm that the 5000 S TR's are much easier to mount on Zipp 303 S wheels than the 5000 TL's have been on other wheelsets I own. I don't know how much of this is the tire vs the wheel. (My tubeless CX tires seemed easier to mount on the Zipps as well)
The Zipps have been cake with every tire that I've used on them, thus far (though I guess that's only 3 different sets).
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