How many of you hate the way sloping geometries look?
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I thought that was manque.
Compact frames look squashed.
Compact frames look squashed.
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I've never liked the look of a sloping top tube. A possible benefit is that with a longer extension of the seat post, you gain a bit of pseudo-suspension and maybe save a tiny bit of weight. Another small benefit is that it takes up slightly less space when shipping/transporting. Having said that, I think a traditional geometry is stronger and doesn't look funky. Giant probably pulls it off the best.
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I don't mind the sloping top tubes. I think a traditional frame bike is more Handsome, however the new sloping TT have a "New Look". I guess we'll see in 10 years how well the design has aged. My next Road Bike will most likely be sloping.
I don't like the curved top tube look as those remind me too much of a Beach Cruiser, which typically conjures up slow heavy bikes made to be ridden at a slow speeds where the bike is barely balancing, or Pee Wee Herman goes Racing...
I don't like the curved top tube look as those remind me too much of a Beach Cruiser, which typically conjures up slow heavy bikes made to be ridden at a slow speeds where the bike is barely balancing, or Pee Wee Herman goes Racing...
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler
(Damn typos. Mod help on the title please - "many" not "manky")
My first bike was an 04 Allez on close-ut that was a good bike to get back into riding with, but having almost a foot of seat post hanging out (this was even a 62 cm!) was ridiculous. It almost looked like a chick's bike or something.
The salesman who sold me my traditional-looking Lemond Sarthe steel bike told me that he never really thought that sloping geometry bikes don't look right on bigger frames.
Thoughts on this?
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My first bike was an 04 Allez on close-ut that was a good bike to get back into riding with, but having almost a foot of seat post hanging out (this was even a 62 cm!) was ridiculous. It almost looked like a chick's bike or something.
The salesman who sold me my traditional-looking Lemond Sarthe steel bike told me that he never really thought that sloping geometry bikes don't look right on bigger frames.
Thoughts on this?
1st bike:
2nd bike: Yeah baby!
By the way, am I the only one thinks Sincitycycler is entertaining?
.....in a wacky way?
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Originally Posted by allgoo19
I don't think comparing those pictures is fair. What makes pic one doesn't look as sharp as the pic two is the position of the handle bar relative to the seat height. If it was adjusted to the same relative height as LeMond, it may not look as dorky as it does now.
By the way, am I the only one thinks Sincitycycler is entertaining?
.....in a wacky way?
By the way, am I the only one thinks Sincitycycler is entertaining?
.....in a wacky way?
By the way, am I the only one thinks Sincitycycler is entertaining?.....in a wacky way?
I'm a long time muso that has found an enjoyable way to get in shape. We are all wacky. Try www.harmony-central.com, a musician's forum.
I noticed that alot of roadies are a conservative bunch...that's OK.
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I really have no preference. I have always liked the classic looks of traditional geometry
and once I saw compact, I liked the looks of them too. I bought a LeMond Tourmalet, which has a moderately sloping toptube and I fell in love with it. The Orbeas are sweet too.
and once I saw compact, I liked the looks of them too. I bought a LeMond Tourmalet, which has a moderately sloping toptube and I fell in love with it. The Orbeas are sweet too.
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Compact looks okay if you are relatively short. For tall people it looks awful.
I look like I'm riding a kid's bike when on compact geom.
I look like I'm riding a kid's bike when on compact geom.
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Originally Posted by H23
Compact looks okay if you are relatively short. For tall people it looks awful.
I look like I'm riding a kid's bike when on compact geom.
I look like I'm riding a kid's bike when on compact geom.
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1st bike:
BOO! POOR SHOW, POOR SHOW. WHERE DO YOU PUT YOUR HANDBAG?
2nd bike: Yeah baby!
BRAVO. MUCH MORE MANLY AND HANDSOME. JOLLY GOOD SHOW.
BOO! POOR SHOW, POOR SHOW. WHERE DO YOU PUT YOUR HANDBAG?
2nd bike: Yeah baby!
BRAVO. MUCH MORE MANLY AND HANDSOME. JOLLY GOOD SHOW.
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I prefer the traditional as well.
One of my fears is that someday manufacturers will figure out a way to make a one-size-fits-all road frame, and you have some kind of crazy bent seatpost and telescoping stem that you flip/turn/slide/twist to make that one size fit you.
One of my fears is that someday manufacturers will figure out a way to make a one-size-fits-all road frame, and you have some kind of crazy bent seatpost and telescoping stem that you flip/turn/slide/twist to make that one size fit you.
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Originally Posted by 1955
You all suck...compact looks the best! Quit being such Luddittes.
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Originally Posted by allgoo19
I don't think comparing those pictures is fair. What makes pic one doesn't look as sharp as the pic two is the position of the handle bar relative to the seat height. If it was adjusted to the same relative height as LeMond, it may not look as dorky as it does now.
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I think he even has spacers under that down sloping stem to raise it! That's wack! Raising and lowering handlebar at the same time. Why?
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i think it might me negative rise because the sarthe is a "classic" style from lemond and didnt older bikes have stems like that? (im thinking of the quill ones)
edit: you know what... im sorry but i think that stem is parallel to the ground... so your whole arguement was just crap :x
edit refering to wrong photo! my bad....
edit: you know what... im sorry but i think that stem is parallel to the ground... so your whole arguement was just crap :x
edit refering to wrong photo! my bad....
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Originally Posted by classic1
For those of you who may have been wondering, I HATE UNISEX GIRLY BIKES. They look crap.
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Originally Posted by Ben Cousins
To be honest, to look at I like both, but that Lemond is a horrible example of a traditional frame, and that Specialized is an old man's bike, in a tiny size.
???. The Lemond is retro - classic steel like what these guys rode:
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Is it just me or does Ullrich's bike look completely wrong for road geometry? I can see this in maybe a track bike but a road bike with such a high seat and low stem just looks weird to me. I don't mind sloping top tubes but when the difference in seat and stem height is that great, it just seems to irk me in the private regions just looking at it.
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Ullrich's bike looks hot! Being a pro he's flexible enough to ride that positioning all day long. I don't think it looks weird, I think it's how a race bike should look, rather than having bars even or close to even with the saddle. It's less pedestrian...
My Road bike positioning is set-up just like Ullrich's, not quite as low, but close
My Road bike positioning is set-up just like Ullrich's, not quite as low, but close
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Originally Posted by SteveE
I'm too old school and agree that it makes it look like a mtn. bike.
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what spoils this bike is obvously the very upright stem.
It almost looks like a tourer. The pro bikes with low stems and virtually no spacers look "uber" cool.
It almost looks like a tourer. The pro bikes with low stems and virtually no spacers look "uber" cool.