ctak

Two available online options, both 7075 and somewhat similar in design. Multiple reasons to do something like this, but I'm more interested in user experiences.

1) eBay - 7075 rigid insert
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32540639380...cAAOSwLDxjY~R8
Tensile test: https://docs.google.com/presentation...e&delayms=3000


2) Future Shock "Delete"
https://www.thebikesauce.com/product...gid-delete-kit


Anyone using either? Particularly interested in comments from people who have given this hack a shot.

After the Specialized recall a few years ago, the single bolt torque spec for the collar changed from 6.2nm to 4nm. Not exactly sure why... but once I receive these units I'll see if 4nm plus ample carbon paste is sufficient for hopping curbs.

Remembering Terpstra at Roubaix in 2017...

“Whereas the majority of Specialized-sponsored riders at Paris-Roubaix opted for the standard Future Shock suspension cartridge shown here, Quick-Step Floors rider Niki Terpstra instead requested a special one-piece aluminum plug with no suspension travel whatsoever.

Once Terpstra gave his stamp of approval on the idea, Cote said that Specialized’s engineers then set about a full finite element analysis to develop a part that would more ably survive the rigors of Paris-Roubaix cobblestones. Specifically, the tube walls grew substantially thicker in the most highly stressed areas, and the shape also grew more sophisticated as compared to that comparatively roughly hewn prototype. Larger-diameter radii were also added where needed so as not to produce any dangerous stress concentrations where a crack might initiate.

“It was the same materials in both: 7075-T6 aluminum,” Cote explained. “But the product that was re-engineered had tube walls that were over 2mm thicker in the area with the highest stress, where the actual failure occurred.”

Unfortunately, a miscommunication between Specialized and the team allowed Terpstra to continue riding that initial prototype instead of the more finalized version he should have been using. Given those undersized tube walls — plus the fact that his fully rigid machine bore the full brunt of the cobbles as compared to other riders using the Future Shock suspension system — a crack formed at the base of that prototype plug and eventually propagated to the point where the tube could no longer take the pounding.“

ctak

eBay unit arrived today. At first glance the construction is impressive and the lower, larger diameter end of the element fits perfectly into the carbon steerer tube of my Diverge. With a bit of carbon paste, the revised collar torque spec of 4nm won't be an issue at all.

The top cap bolt seemed to be cemented in place upon arrival and when I tried unscrewing it with the appropriate hex key I rather quickly stripped the soft aluminum head of the m6 bolt. Fortunately, there was enough space for my hack saw to cut it in half so as to remove the included carbon cap.

I may end up cutting down the plug a bit (and inserting a star nut) once I sort out the stem and spacer combo I'll be using.

Random11

After you've tried it out, report back on how it affects ride quality. I have a Diverge and have had no problems with the Future Shock, and like the way the bike rides. I have no inclination to replace it. But I have no idea how much of the ride quality is due to the Future Shock because I've never ridden without it. I'd be interested in hearing how much of a difference it makes from someone who's ridden the same bike with and without it.

Chandne

I have several bikes and I certainly prefer the smoother front-end of the Specialized on most rides and the damped Future Shock 2.0 (not the 1.0 which I dislike) is the primary reason I look at those bikes. I also have a shock stem on the gravel bike and I still prefer the Future Shock, if comparing the two. At one point I was thinking that Specialized would provide a lockout like the option pictured above but there may not be much demand.

ctak

Based on a quick test the rigid insert transforms the ride, particularly on punchy climbs and sprints. Frame stiffness and geo seems on par with my Roubaix, even with considerably wider tires.

Drivers for making the switch:
- Stiffen up the front end for out-of-the-saddle efforts
- Get more aero with lower stem and bars
- Lighten up the build by ~1.5-lbs

This isn't exactly a weight weenie project, even if the frame itself weighs ~950g, but dipping under 17-lbs with 38mm Rene Herse rubber and lighter/shallower carbon wheels will be fun. Previous 1x build was 18-lbs on the nose with Zipp 404s and Schwalbe 35mm G-One Speeds. FS weighed 360g, so the swap to the 7075 plug will save 1/2-lb alone. Also changed the seatpost to the moderately flexy S-Works Pave, which saved 200g over the original Command XCP dropper.

Will update with a pic once I dial in the front end with the replacement rigid insert I'm getting. Kudos to the eBay seller. He knows his stuff!

ctak

I liked the FS with narrower (say 32mm ish) tires for smoothing out hits, but with 38s (40psi rear, 35psi front) it felt unnecessary and even counterproductive when climbing, etc. Definitely have some more testing to do.

Lockout would have been practical. Maybe in a future future shock?

Chandne

Yeah, it is whatever you get used to. I run 42s (measure 44s) on the gravel bike and still like the shock stem (20mm travel). I could get used to not having it. It seems to only have squish on the hoods though...not when on the drops or top. Then again, I am primarily a mountain biker used to suspension bikes, though I put in 3,000ish road miles a year. Pure roadies may not like the squish I prefer.

ctak

Testing a few more stem and spacer combos today...

Zcharli

The photo above looks quite nice. Did you have to cut the rod in anyway? I couldn’t tell from the photo if you just relied on top mounted spacers to keep the stem down. If so any brand of recommended spacers? Did the rod come with instructions to install or did you have to figure it out yourself

George

I stayed away from the Roubaix because of the future shock, I like the way it looks. How did you draw the stem down on the steering tube. It does look clean.

Ghazmh

The future of the Future Shock is to delete it