Canyon v Specialized *endurance*
10-26-23, 09:16 AM
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It's a nice ride, I think you will be happy. I've had my SL eTap for just coming up to 2 years now and it's been great. I've done loads of tough gran fondos on this bike and it never beats me up.
10-26-23, 11:05 AM
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I bought last year's Endurace SLX w/Utegra Di2. The Ride is oh so sweet! Except for the saddle, that's pretty sucky. The Seatpost is unique in being a sort of suspension. The only thing I dislike about that is you have to pull the seatpost to adjust the saddle angle. If you are good with setting your saddle angle and then leaving it alone, it's fine and you cannot really feel the flex in it, but it really absorbs shock well.
10-26-23, 01:24 PM
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I bought last year's Endurace SLX w/Utegra Di2. The Ride is oh so sweet! Except for the saddle, that's pretty sucky. The Seatpost is unique in being a sort of suspension. The only thing I dislike about that is you have to pull the seatpost to adjust the saddle angle. If you are good with setting your saddle angle and then leaving it alone, it's fine and you cannot really feel the flex in it, but it really absorbs shock well.
10-26-23, 05:13 PM
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it’s continental go 5000 tr s 32 rear and 30 front. I immediately changed them to tubeless. Wheels were ready for that, already taped. The inner tubes I removed looked to be run of the mill butyl tubes.
12-16-23, 07:13 PM
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I still haven’t bought my new bike. Still saving funds but almost there. I got 3500 but still debating on the Endurace vs Roubaix. I love Specialized. Had an allez for almost 10 years and it’s served me well. Im still hesitant on electronic shifters. Anything electronic can fail. My goal with my next bike is long rides and steep hills. I’m leaning towards the Roubaix SL8 105 now.
going from a 52/36x11/28 to 50/34x11/36 for hills is definitely interesting
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going from a 52/36x11/28 to 50/34x11/36 for hills is definitely interesting
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12-17-23, 08:46 AM
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Given the current sale prices I would throw a BMC Roadmachine in the mix.
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12-17-23, 06:48 PM
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As cool and capable as Specialized is, I genuinely feel they are overpriced. I also view the FutureShock as a liability. It is a single-source, proprietary functionality dependent component. Not a good thing in 10 years when your Mark I, mod O is worn out & version 6 mark II comes out and is struggling for sales/adoption...A RedShift can be replaced by anything, and an integrated cockpit can always be replaced by widely available discreet components and still be functional as a bicycle.
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12-17-23, 07:38 PM
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As a thought exercise, I wonder how much of the hesitancy towards electronic shifter adoption could be eliminated by cross-compatibility between competitors. Even 3rd party conversion boxes or relays or whatever could be viable. The standard steel cable will work with anything and anything can be made to work with a cable. Even if inappropriately so. But only prescribed and approved e-shift works with matching e-shift.
If there was a such thing as a WolfTooth TanPan or Jtek Shiftmate between Di2 and SRAM so that an obsolete & bricked component didn't necessitate a complete group set...I bet there would be greater adoption and less hesitancy.
The absence of possibility causes wholesale skepticism; whether balanced by reliability and future product replacement availability or not.
As a premium bike parts enthusiast, I have no interest in e-shift for the simple fear of water intrusion and battery replacement in 25 years. Either, however unlikely during my time of ownership, would render a complete bicycle as an art piece or exceedingly expensive to repair. Just not worth the risk. I can't imagine I'm the only one who feels this way...There are plenty milk crates of 25 year old derailleurs can work with a $6 friction shifter & a $5 cable if ever it came to that to make a functional bicycle
In 25 years, how many milk crates of functional Di2 derailleurs or boxes of chargeable SRAM batteries will there be? Let alone form factor specific chargers? I don't know and nobody else does either.
If there was a such thing as a WolfTooth TanPan or Jtek Shiftmate between Di2 and SRAM so that an obsolete & bricked component didn't necessitate a complete group set...I bet there would be greater adoption and less hesitancy.
The absence of possibility causes wholesale skepticism; whether balanced by reliability and future product replacement availability or not.
As a premium bike parts enthusiast, I have no interest in e-shift for the simple fear of water intrusion and battery replacement in 25 years. Either, however unlikely during my time of ownership, would render a complete bicycle as an art piece or exceedingly expensive to repair. Just not worth the risk. I can't imagine I'm the only one who feels this way...There are plenty milk crates of 25 year old derailleurs can work with a $6 friction shifter & a $5 cable if ever it came to that to make a functional bicycle
In 25 years, how many milk crates of functional Di2 derailleurs or boxes of chargeable SRAM batteries will there be? Let alone form factor specific chargers? I don't know and nobody else does either.
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12-17-23, 08:21 PM
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12-20-23, 05:24 PM
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12-21-23, 06:41 AM
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FYI, the 2024 are also on sale for 3k (500$ off on the specialized USA website)
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12-21-23, 07:17 AM
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Update
im now saving for the CF SLX. Twice the price yet this will be my last bike purchase so I’m going big.
https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...nfarbe=BK%2FBK
im now saving for the CF SLX. Twice the price yet this will be my last bike purchase so I’m going big.
https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...nfarbe=BK%2FBK
12-21-23, 02:39 PM
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I was back and forth and ultimately decided to get the Roubaix. Older year yet still has everything I wanted. The 2024 had some upgrades but I don’t have the extra $500 and have zero patience to wait. I didn’t go with the Canyon. Didn’t want to deal with a Mail in bike. Specialized and LBS has never let me down.
I have only ridden the bike a couple miles and it feels waaaay different then my Allez. I feel like I’m riding a cloud. One thing I noticed is my reach is longer then my Allez. After doing some measurements my old bike saddle is almost 3 inches longer then the Roubaix; which is the reason my reach is longer. May need to get a shorter stem.
when the rain stops I’ll take the Roubaix up some steep hills and report back
I have only ridden the bike a couple miles and it feels waaaay different then my Allez. I feel like I’m riding a cloud. One thing I noticed is my reach is longer then my Allez. After doing some measurements my old bike saddle is almost 3 inches longer then the Roubaix; which is the reason my reach is longer. May need to get a shorter stem.
when the rain stops I’ll take the Roubaix up some steep hills and report back
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12-21-23, 03:50 PM
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12-28-23, 03:23 PM
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Really loving this Roubaix. Shop did a free bike fit and now bike feels even better.
gearing wise ive noticed I’m in the big chain ring upfront a lot more. And hills are much easier. FS and AS feel great over road chatter
No complaints yet
gearing wise ive noticed I’m in the big chain ring upfront a lot more. And hills are much easier. FS and AS feel great over road chatter
No complaints yet
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12-29-23, 07:05 AM
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I have only ridden the bike a couple miles and it feels waaaay different then my Allez. I feel like I’m riding a cloud. One thing I noticed is my reach is longer then my Allez. After doing some measurements my old bike saddle is almost 3 inches longer then the Roubaix; which is the reason my reach is longer. May need to get a shorter stem.
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However, If you were to measure one bike vs another and include the saddle in some way, you'd typically measure from where you sit on the saddle (ie. the widest part). A longer saddle would typically only mean that that there's more of a nose available, but you don't set up a bike to sit on the nose of the saddle.
12-29-23, 05:56 PM
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12-29-23, 07:12 PM
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I love this Speesh. The Pave seat post is amazing and eats up road chatter from behind. And the future shock is my friend. I’m using the stiff spring and it does it job with bumps and there is no compromise when hammering up hill. Had a 14% climb and was hating life but didn’t feel any squishy in the handle bars.
my only gripe is the excess brake/gear hose in the cockpit, which is more of a visual thing.
overall I give this a 9/10. Even like it over the new Roubaix SL8 cuz that bike is more gravel then endurance now.
I love this Speesh. The Pave seat post is amazing and eats up road chatter from behind. And the future shock is my friend. I’m using the stiff spring and it does it job with bumps and there is no compromise when hammering up hill. Had a 14% climb and was hating life but didn’t feel any squishy in the handle bars.
my only gripe is the excess brake/gear hose in the cockpit, which is more of a visual thing.
overall I give this a 9/10. Even like it over the new Roubaix SL8 cuz that bike is more gravel then endurance now.
05-07-24, 08:44 PM
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Warranty work with Canyon bikes requires you shipping the bike back to them. That was a non-starter for me. People have posted about problems with their Canyon bikes and having to take them apart and ship them back and I prefer to deal with a local bike shop business instead. I always support local businesses with their local employees over corporations.