what the hell is Firefox?? I thought it was a bad Clint Eastwood movie.

I just put the stats from my cycling computer into Excel - haven't done any data massaging but Excel has some pretty powerful tools for graphing, linking cells etc. etc. Unfortunately, I am not sufficiently skilled with Excel to take advantage of its more sophisticated features.

+1 on inputting stats into Excel & then not knowing what else to do with them

Anyone here familiar with Trek bikes? What size stem does the Trek 7300 have?

I am asking because a friend of ours wants to change the suspension fork for a rigid fork and has been told by his LBS that it can't be done because of the combination of V-brakes, 700C wheels and stem size.

Asked the question at our LBS and he said that stems commonly come in 1" or 1 1/8" - he was pretty sure Treks had 1 1/8" stems.

Which would mean it is entirely possible to replace the Trek suspension fork with a rigid one because other bikes use the V-brake/700C wheel/1 1/8" stem combo. Unless Treks have some bizarre proprietary setup which means you can't use aftermarket forks.

I do graph my weight though. :p

Current weight might actually be something else I might want to track.

Excel is made by microsoft so theres no way I'm going down that path.

The advantage of writing your own is you can make it do whatever you want. Theres always the risk of re-inventing the wheel though, if there is already a tool for the job.

So how fat are you this week?

Bloody useles consumer crap. :mad:

Does anyone know of a cheap military grade HRM that won't break after a few months of use? I now have two boat anchors, one polar one echowell

Let's just say it could do with some improvement. :o

Two things you never ask a woman - her age and what she weighs. :)

I have a polar S210 which has survived many an OTB excursion on the MTB and is still running strong. IMHO its a good, no frills unit.

I use polar, seems pretty good!

I can understand that. I'm not a big Microsoft fan myself, but there is no denying that Excel is one powerful program and relatively bug free.

According to hubby, there is something called StarOffice made by Sun which he thinks has most of the functionality of Excel but is based on OpenOffice. You might want to have look at that.

If you do decide to write your own - your challenge is to do it in as few lines of code as possible with no redundant loops. :D

Noone uses BASICA anymore matagi :p

What is this BASICA? We probably have it on a 5 1/4" diskette somewhere. :D

Hubby only uses Assembler. :lol:

Why u knock assembler? is good. is fast.

Anyone interested in a DeRosa frame http://www.graysonline.com.au/sale.asp?SALE_ID=50132 catalogue out tomorrow

I no knock Assembler - is only thing hubby writes in these days. Leaves those flabby high level things for dead if you want crisp, clean, pared down code.

Wow, thats heaps of stuff. I can proabably add most of that stuff in without too much trouble.
I'll keep you guys in the loop as I'm pretty new to 'real' training and recording all this stuff.

I've got to buy a new web hosting package, but i'll put in on line so you can take a look.

I use NeoOffice (based in Open Office) on my mac's, and use open office on my linux desktops.

I'll be writing the program using java with a mySQL backend, so I don't actually need a spreadsheet tool.

As for assembler, well, you can have that. The whole point of 3G languages is so you don't have to think like a computer.

Especially good for anyone who likes to rewrite the universe from scratch everytime they start a project. eg. "I need to write to the screen. I'll need to write a driver that handles every possible hardware permutation and configuration for that." :lol:

That's just lame and lazy royale :p

agreed! id go that merckx copy job down the bottom though. mmmm steeel :: drool :::love:

different internet browser that all these guys reckon is better than Explorer.

Have you checked out the De Rosas at ACR yet?

Ive just finished doing an econometric and quantitative analysis course at uni so I can do some pretty cool forecasting if you want.

Best thing to find in excel is:
go to tools -> add ins --> data analysis
then tools--> data analysis. then play with those tools summary statistics will give mean, mode, range etc.
If you can be bothered to group the data into groups (like weeks) then run summary stats again it'll give variance etc. Then if you want to you could predict future events, like mileage etc. Or in Matagi's case weightloss :D

on the data logger thing

From the rider's point of view the less recorded the better. There are better things to do in life than waste time filling in endless forms every day.

From a coaches point of view the rider needs to record enough detail to assess progress against programmed targets, and detect problems (eg. fatigue, low moral, etc.)

Here's what I would record:

Coach's Target Bands:
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Target Mileage (+/-10%)
Target HR Zone
Target Ride Duration (+/-10%)

Waking State
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Hours of Sleep
Waking HR
Waking Mental State (Lethargic, Tired, Normal, Agitated, Hyped Up)
Waking Weight
Illnesses/Injuries

Ride Information
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Start Time
Route Description
Actual Mileage
Avg HR
Max HR
End Time
Actual Ride Duration
Riding State (Sick, Sore, Glum, Tired, Normal, Agitated, Angry, Hyped Up)
Ride Conditions (eg. Very Hot, Humid, Fine)

Nutrition
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Pre-Ride Fluids
Pre-Ride Meal
Ride Fluid Intake
Ride Food Intake
Post-Ride Drink
Post-Ride Meal
Intake Notes
Post Ride Weight

All of this info can be used as pointers along the training program path, for example:

If the recorded ride info consistently deviates from the coach's target bands then the training plan or rider attitude need to be adjusted.

If the waking state info points to performance hindering illness, injury, fatigue, or mental state then it's time to consider a break from the set training program

If the waking weight rises over time and bulk is not desirable then either the diet needs adjustment or strength training needs to be curtailed.

The nutrition info is a historical record of what works and what doesn't (eg. unripe bananas give me stomach cramps) for race planning.

... and so on



So there's no point just mindlessly recording this stuff. You need to know how to use it to adapt your training routine as well. A coach is able to look at all the info coming in and assemble it like a jigsaw puzzle into meaningful performance indicators. That's how your next week's or month's program get's set. It can protect you from both under-achieving and making yourself sick from overdoing it.

What are you programming for? A bludy ZX-80 or something?


BTW, did you lot read this article? How good does that sound? (Look how fat the farkers are as well. :lol: )

A-ha.


I thought there it was Explorer or nothing.