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Old 08-14-05, 07:49 AM
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Titanium Components

i was looking through a cycling mag the other day, and noticed right down at the very bottom of the page an ad featuring a titanium seatpost made by selcof (spl?). i began to wonder to myself then, considering there seems to be many members on this board who believe that titanium is the best material for everything from their litespeed to their toothbrushes, why there isnt more titanium bicycle components. Do they exists at all? or are they just very difficult to come by? and maybe, just maybe (not that i want to offend anyone using their titanium toothbrush) it doesnt make for fantastic components such as handlebars, stems, cranks and so forth. I personally have no idea about this at all and was wondering what peoples thoughts were about such products.
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Originally Posted by mrhatten
i was looking through a cycling mag the other day, and noticed right down at the very bottom of the page an ad featuring a titanium seatpost made by selcof (spl?). i began to wonder to myself then, considering there seems to be many members on this board who believe that titanium is the best material for everything from their litespeed to their toothbrushes, why there isnt more titanium bicycle components. Do they exists at all? or are they just very difficult to come by? and maybe, just maybe (not that i want to offend anyone using their titanium toothbrush) it doesnt make for fantastic components such as handlebars, stems, cranks and so forth. I personally have no idea about this at all and was wondering what peoples thoughts were about such products.
Titanium doesn't make sense everywhere. For example, titanium bikes always have carbon forks. You do see titanium in some components like bottom brackets and pedals and cassettes. For other components, I suspect that titanium is too expensive (vs. aluminum or steel) for little benefit.

I've never tried a titanium seatpost, so don't know how well that works. What is the weight?
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I used a titanium seatpost and seatpost collar, both made by Airborne, on my recent titanium build project. They look great and the ride of the bike is amazing, but of course the titanium frame comes to play in the equation. I got them primarily to have as much titanium as possible and also to match the look of the frame.

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Originally Posted by blandin
I used a titanium seatpost and seatpost collar, both made by Airborne, on my recent titanium build project. They look great and the ride of the bike is amazing, but of course the titanium frame comes to play in the equation. I got them primarily to have as much titanium as possible and also to match the look of the frame.

Yeah, bling is priceless.
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Originally Posted by sydney
Yeah, bling is priceless.
No, it's expensive.
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The high cost of Ti makes people forget it's usually heavier than aluminum. The benefits are flex and damping and a nearly unlimited fatigue life, so parts that see a lot of stress last a long time. As a frame material Ti is cool because it rides a lot like steel but it's lighter and it won't get 'ridden out' like steel will after years of use.
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umm Hyper...your saying under your name seems to be missing an N...
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Originally Posted by ZappCatt
umm Hyper...your saying under your name seems to be missing an N...
Appreciate the heads up, maybe this shoulda been PM'd?
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No paint job to worry about or de-lamination. Supposedly 3/2.5 titanium is stucturally the strongest frame material you can buy.
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Originally Posted by be73
No, it's expensive.
Maybe bling in general is "expensive", but titanium has a useful lifespan exceeding that of steel, aluminum and carbon making it a very good value if the bike is go to be kept over time.
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Originally Posted by blandin
Maybe bling in general is "expensive", but titanium has a useful lifespan exceeding that of steel, aluminum and carbon making it a very good value if the bike is go to be kept over time.
I assume you're talking about several lifetimes. Many steel, aluminum, or carbon frames come with lifetime guarantees (for 1 lifetime).
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Who besides Trek and Litespeed are offering lifetime warrantees on steel, Al, and carbon?
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Litespeed only offers a lifetime warranty on their Ti...their AL frames are 3 years.

This is from their site:
Litespeed aluminum frames shall be under warranty for three (3) years from the date of purchase to the original owner of the bicycle. All bicycle components and additions will be warranted only by the manufacturer of the product. Litespeed is responsible only for the bicycle frame.
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There are some componets that are made out of Ti, or partly ti. I do remember someone talking about how shimano replaces some of the parts in the DA shifters with Ti. There are those Zero Gravity brakes too. And therea re pedals made with Ti.
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Lifetime warranty on an aluminum frame? Show me one. I think you mean lifetime against defects in workmanship.
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Only Ti parts I have are my wheel skewers, and pedal axles.
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My Merlin frame is, well, Ti. I tried a Ti bottom bracket from Performance, sort of out of currosity, and it was a poor investment. Failed after one season. I have thought about using a Ti seat post but have some questions about clamping Ti against Ti. A word of advise for any one mixing metals, such as aluminum or steel with Ti. If the parts are threaded, such as a bottom bracket, ALWAYS use titanium prep on the thread surfaces. Regular grease won't cut it.

I think that Alien, American Classic, and older Campy are good Ti seat posts, as it the Moots version.
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